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| Hypographer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: 5th Dimension theory What theory? ---------------- Your Friendly Neighborhood AdministratorWant to sponsor Hypography? Buy a print in our Fall 2008 Benefit Sale Join our Facebook group or follow us on Twitter Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality. - Carl Sagan | |
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| Thinking | Re: 5th Dimension theory We will probably never know much about any of those higher dimensions because we can't perceive them in any way that we can with the others. I don't think time travel would be a dimension though, it's a movement through some or all of the others. | |
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| Creating | Re: 5th Dimension theory If you want a physical dimension the math is explicit and trivially manipulated. If you want compactified dimensions you have one charge dimension, two isospin dimensions, and three color dimensions atop the usual three plus time. Their physical meaning is debatable. If you want to play games like Heinlein's Number of the Beast you have three space axes (x,y,z) and three time axes (t, tau, teh). Time travel violates causality. The universe does not tolerate contradictions. You cannot expect an answer of any better quality than that of the question you ask. ---------------- Uncle Al http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals) http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2 | |
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| Curious | Re: 5th Dimension theory UncleAl, your reply is perfect. Time travel violates causality. Eisten has theoritically proved its practical impossibility. Well, I have heard about the three time axes (t, tau, teh)... never understood though. Also I have heard about theories that has more dimensions. Say M-theory that has 11 dimensions defined. Are these theories proven? Can you throw some light on this. | |
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| Astounding Vision | Re: 5th Dimension theory Quote:
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| Astounding Vision | Re: 5th Dimension theory Quote:
No really, there is no reason to say there cannot be a fifth dimension and time is an illusion we create to help us see the infinite number of three dimensional moments in 4D space time. The fourth dimension is simply what is at right angles from the third. But time is a good way to think of the fourth dimension and the fifth would allow for an infinite number of four dimensional space times as the fourth allows for a infinite number of three dimensional moments in time. It's so easy when you are as uninformed as I am ---------------- Michael Nuclear is the only real option! http://www.nuclearspace.com/Liberty_ship_menupg.aspx Who died and left you in charge? Captain Bipto! The early bird might get the worm but the second mouse gets the cheese! Life is the poetry of the universe. Love is the poetry of life. Over heard from a three year old, "Daddy why do my toes get sticky when I eat strawberry jam?" Never wrestle a troll. You both get dirty and the troll likes it ![]() | ||
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| Creating | Re: 5th Dimension theory One way to look at the fifth dimension is connected to two different space-time references interacting. The more contracted reference sees things different in space and time. If we didn't know it was in another reference, but it was interacting with our reference, the affects would appear to be off in terms of cause and affect in our reference. For example, time dilation within the fast reference makes a person appear to age slower. If we didn't know he was in a fast reference, but assumed he was in our reference, it would appear like he had new virtual biology. If one is aware of the reference difference, and can compensate for these differences, the fifth dimension can be factored out. It is possible we are not fully aware of all reference interactions since high GR is different than low GR. While, by convention, we only use the zero reference to coordinate universe gravity. If there was reference interaction this assumption may create anomalies needing the 5th D. | |
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| Thinking | Re: 5th Dimension theory Quote:
Tell me what you have perceived that leads you to believe that the first three spatial dimensions are real physical things? After you answer that then we can proceed to talking about the dimensions beyond that. | ||
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| Thinking | Re: 5th Dimension theory Quote:
Read post #9. Same goes for you. What makes you think the first three spatial dimensions are physical things? | ||
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