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It was the complete set of problem solutions to the text. Now what?
Now you sit down and write the book yourself.


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Its been said before by some of the greatest minds we have had that no one actually understands quantum mechanics. Part of the problem is there are actually many different interpretations of exactly the same effects. At one time there was a lady researcher who came to the same conclusions I and some others did while both parties used different versions of QM (her the more standard text book model and the rest of us where paying around with Bohm's pilot wave model). She managed to publish her findings while the rest of us had simply mentioned such on a website at about the same time. Interesting enough her findings rather back up as did ours the idea of more than one frame of reference(multiverse idea) being the source of the conclusion. Now on a personal level I tend to follow the absorber-emitter viewpoint and actually do not care for the Bohm model that much. But it also showed just how different views can all take the same experimental events, explain them a bit different, and still come to the same conclusion.

QM deals with a world that is not our everyday world. When it comes to stating what is going on almost everybody out there has their own ideas and there own ways of explaining things. My best suggestion is study all the different viewpoints and try to understand things from a point of view that makes sence to you.
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... Perhaps there have more recent experiments that perhaps support quantum leaps, but it seems the most likely explanation is just electrons moving from one orbital to another. It has been a while since I have done any hard-core studying on the issue, but my understanding is that the orbitals of the electrons are just statistical probablities of where an electron with a specific amount of energy should be found. Would it not stand to reason that excited electrons use just plain old motion to shift orbitals? The methodology to deduce how electrons shift orbitals does not seem accurate enough to discern from slight and random movements and a "quantum leap".
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Electrons only move from one orbital level to another by either absorbing or releasing energy. This energy is only given off in certain discrete amounts, quanta as they're called. There's no such thing as half a quanta. Likewise in absorbing energy electrons either absorb enough energy to go to the next orbital or not, there's no half way or cumulative absorbtion of two lesser quanta. When electricity goes through the filament in a light bulb it excites the electrons in the filament. So the electrons start going out to the next orbital. But they do so only very briefly. When they release the energy they release it chiefly as quanta in the visual light part of the electromagnetic spectrum. And do so at pretty well every possible energy, thus white light. Some of the energy is also given off in the infrared part of the spectrum, which is why lightbulbs get hot. Infrared being the part of the electromagnetic spectrum that is responsible for heat transfer.
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QM deals with a world that is not our everyday world. When it comes to stating what is going on almost everybody out there has their own ideas and there own ways of explaining things. My best suggestion is study all the different viewpoints and try to understand things from a point of view that makes sence to you.
The problem lies here. If a theory becomes so complex and abstract that there are multiple solutions and explainations, then in essense we only have an opinion. (And everyone knows about opinions)

It's just like other scientific advancements ... QM = work in progress
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