Time Travel 2

[CD27]

sanctus,

for once, finally, a man with integrity. instead of completely bashing your theory, you actually tried to help me with it, an bash it. lol. i appreciate that. for one, and i kow this is a bit of a personal problem, but you helped, i've been very sick due to a stomach flue, just recently able to actually walk without falling down. and all of these poeple just tearing my theory apart, and then giving quite stupid reasons as to why, was just making me sicker. it tends to tick me off when peole ask questions that are already answerable by just reading the theory. not to say that anyone actually read the entire theory. but to bring my religion in the concept, i did however tell you to turn away if you did not belive in the spiritual dimension, it was your choice to read on further. and therefore your choice to cause turmoil in this forum. i did not ask or even want someone who is not in correspondance to the spiritual dimensions, even descretely, to even try to read this theory. so from now on, anyone who looks at it in the view of being wrong because of religion, i will simply ignore. now, sanctus, i appreciate you very much. i had absolutely no idea that quantum mechanics says that electrons are mobile. if i had put that in account i probably would never have even come up with my theory. but still, i believe that inol jello still exists within any electrical charged area, wether the electron or proton itself moves, makes no diference. it is still there, i'll just subtract the idea of there being an inol force. and, btw, it is possible to not have a good understanding in math and yet have one in physics. i see things very differently than most everyone else. i don't lock myself in the ideas that everything i'm being taught is absolutely correct. therefore i think outside of the box, not inside of this very dense closed in space. there is a 50/50 chance of everything you're being told in physics is correct. look at it this way: a long time ago, everyone thought that the earth was flat, and al of that went side by side with all of the observations that they could make at that time. but centuries later, new laws and observations in physics "proved" them wrong, despite their evidence that tehy were correct. and it has done that time and time again. for some reason people forget that. they forget that the same thing could very well happen to the laws of physics that they now understand. later on down the line, a new observation and law of physics could prove that everyhting we are thnking is "correct" to be wrong, despite what evidence we may have to say that it is correct. you must always remember that 50/50 chance that you could be wrong, as i do as well. i have never once thought that i could not be wrong, i know i can, but that doesn't stop me from trying to grow inmy thoughts.
about the christian religion, just to clear things up. bush and his government, are jsut that, the government. since when did anyone trust the government? i am not part of the government, so i am not trapped by what the government officials tell me to do, i live by the book, not what someone else tells me.
i am terribly sorry for the very bad typos here, i can fix them later, but not now, i have a doctor's appointment to go to, so take care all.

[Tormod]

Originally posted by: CD27
i did however tell you to turn away if you did not belive in the spiritual dimension, it was your choice to read on further. and therefore your choice to cause turmoil in this forum. i did not ask or even want someone who is not in correspondance to the spiritual dimensions, even descretely, to even try to read this theory. so from now on, anyone who looks at it in the view of being wrong because of religion, i will simply ignore.

Consider this a warning: if you continue to say that your postings are not meant to be read by others, you will be banned. I have not built this forum as a soapbox for anyone - it is open to all who follow our rules. If you want only a select few to read your ideas, posting them on a public forum is not a good idea.

i don't lock myself in the ideas that everything i'm being taught is absolutely correct. therefore i think outside of the box, not inside of this very dense closed in space. there is a 50/50 chance of everything you're being told in physics is correct.

No, that is not correct. There is no evidence to back up such a claim. You are saying that physicists half of the time are incorrect (or how else would half of what you hear be wrong)? I question your claimed insight into physics. What is your background in the field?

look at it this way: a long time ago, everyone thought that the earth was flat, and al of that went side by side with all of the observations that they could make at that time.

There is no evidence that people in the past thought the earth was flat. This idea is rather new, and is a myth. In fact, we know that civilisations as far back as we can trace had strong interests in astronomy and could calculate celestial events quite accurately (re Stonehenge).

but centuries later, new laws and observations in physics "proved" them wrong, despite their evidence that tehy were correct.

This is wrong, since people never thought the earth was flat.

about the christian religion, just to clear things up. bush and his government, are jsut that, the government. since when did anyone trust the government? i am not part of the government, so i am not trapped by what the government officials tell me to do

President Bush calls himself a Christian. His Government is therefore run by a Christian man. Which part you play in it has no relevance to this discussion.

i live by the book, not what someone else tells me.

Now there's an oxymoron if I ever heard one (but we've heard that statement many times in these forums).

i am terribly sorry for the very bad typos here, i can fix them later, but not now, i have a doctor's appointment to go to, so take care all.

Don't worry about the typos, worry about your health. Take care and get well.

Tormod

[Freethinker]

Originally posted by: Tormod
This is wrong, since people never thought the earth was flat.

Oh that this was true. As I posted a quote that I was holding on to as a Sig (still will at some point) I thought it would be relevant to post it here also.

"If you accept the literal truth of every word of the Bible, then the earth must be flat. The same is true for the Qu'ran. Pronouncing the earth round then means you're an atheist. Anyone of the round persuasion does not believe in God and should be punished." [Muslim religious edict, 1993 Sheik Abdel-Aziz Ibn Baaz Supreme religious authority, Saudi Arabia]

Now remember, this was only 11 years ago.

Ain't it amazing what nonsense religion will try to force us to believe, by threat of death!

[Tormod]

Oh well. My bad.

But it still happened *after* "physics proved them wrong" (sometime more than 11 years ago).

Tormod

[Tim_Lou]

yeah, you can say that 1/2 of physics stuffs are wrong.

but what?
yea, so?
prove it wrong!
if people just sit there and say its wrong, theyr not doing anything...

this is just the way this world works,
as freethinker said b4.

proofs are required.
if i just say the earth was round in the past, it wasnt gonna help.

yes, believing in wrong stuffs may be bad,
but you must believe in it first in order to disapprove it. (get an idea of it first)

[Tim_Lou]

i think of a way of proving whatever time traveling theory:

whenever you publish a theory about time travel, attach something like

"please travel to me at xxx location at xxx time period.... sincerely xxx....to my dear future reader"

if no one from the future comes to meet you, your theory is......

[CD27]

very good tim. unfortunately, the problem with time travel is: A GOLDEN RULE "any time travel at all will always affect the future, always. even just having somone see you in a particular place and time. that's all it takes to change someone's choices from what they would be if they did not see you.

[Tim_Lou]

"any time travel at all will always affect the future, always"

so, how is it possible to travel back in time?

[CD27]

you can travel back or forward through time, the same way, well, using my theory. but even just being seen in a different time, wether past or future, could possibly have some afect on someone's thoughts that may cause a change in a decision...from there you can guess what would happen.

[Uncle Martin]

Would it be possible to use your theory to transport this forum back in time to 6-2-04 when the topics still made sense?