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I have been working on an argument that the vector potential A is a 1-form connection for a U(1) theory
It is!

This, of course, means that garvitation is also a gauge theory. The affine connection \Gamma^{\mu}_{\nu\sigma} is the gauge and defines the covariant derivative (which is tensorial, whereas the connection and the partial derivative taken singly are not).


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So my texts tell me. Please argue the point; that is, just because the vector potential is a 1-form, and just because, essentially by definition, the connection is also a 1-form, the two must coincide. This is not at all obvious to me.

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Actually they do not "coincide" at all, they simply share a similar pattern in describing how something changes for a given displacement. In the EM case the something is a simple phase, in the gravitation case, it's the tensors of rank greater than zero.


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I have been working on an argument that the vector potential A is a 1-form connection for a U(1) theory
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Actually they do not "coincide" at all,
I must be dim, but I cannot square these two assertions.

I have a lengthy (and extremely boring) geometric argument that defines the connection, but it still doesn't give me the vector potential as the connection for a U(1) theory or its generalization to a SU(n) theory.

So what is it to be? Is the vector potential A literally the connection on the U(1) bundle, or is it not? If not, then it seems like the generalization to SU(n) would be unsafe on the same grounds.

I have to say, I am not happy with this - I lost a lot of dogs when walking them - literally - trying to figure this out (happily they know their way home). Did I waste my time?
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The vector potential A is LITERALLY the connection on the U(1) bundle. You can show this by creating a Lorentz invariant action over the manifold, and working out some equations of motion. They turn out to be electricity and magnetism. Crazy. As to "why"? :: Why does any model turn out to be the model it is?
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I must be dim, but I cannot square these two assertions.
Well, maybe I'm the dim one I thought you meant A_{\mu} coinciding with \Gamma_{\nu\sigma}^{\mu}.

Try contracting a diplacement dx^{\mu} with Jay-Qu's definitions of the gauge-covariant derivative. You should see how the extra term, added to the differential, gives the algebraic sum which doesn't depend on a local change of gauge.


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