Explain Mass.

arkain101 · 04-21-2006

quite amazing they can figure these thing out.. of such tiny particles

Akw2000 · 05-01-2006

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Originally Posted by arkain101

quite amazing they can figure these thing out.. of such tiny particles

Yes, But the real question remains: How do our universe works, what is it built of at the lowest level? Energy? or a spider web of dimensions which creates the physical laws and PRODUCED energy to the big bang?

GOLDEN · 05-02-2006

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This is the challenge of my question. Why does mass have mass.

The real answer to this question can only be obtained though a unified field theory. This is still the holy grail of unsolved problems in theoretical physics. in essence you are asking what gives a particle mass, but the term mass is defined by the measurement of the interaction of an object with its local relativistic space-time. The answer to this question at our scale as answered by Newton's inverse squared law. At high speeds Einstein’s general relativity provides the answer and relates gravity with inertia but quantum mechanics can only talk about gravity/inertia in theoretical terms because the associated force is so much smaller then that of the other forces of the quantum field. However we know that objects with giant masses such as stars are made up of incredible numbers of very small particles. Thus it stands to reason that each of those tiny particles must contribute to the over all mass large objects. Unfortunately the actual property of a quantum particle that is responsible for its mass has not yet been successfully found and verified. There are theories on the cutting edge of physics such as M theory and Higgs theory that provide possible answers but still none have been successfully tested and in my personal opinion do not provide a complete explanation. In reality the problem is so revered that if someone could actually answer the question of what mass is exactly, they would probably be received as the most ingenious physicist of all time.

Akw2000 · 05-02-2006

haha, I'll tell you when I solve that one

arkain101 · 05-02-2006

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In reality the problem is so revered that if someone could actually answer the question of what mass is exactly, they would probably be received as the most ingenious physicist of all time

You hit the nail on the head in that post so many times its imbedded into the pixles.

Exactly right, and this is the reason I created the post. I wanted to put this question out there for a few reasons. It makes a point to everyone that you can stand behind your theory, talk the talk and feel about it all how you want, but in the big picture, we still dont get it. Another reason was to hear peoples off the wall, in the back room ideas that normally have no other place.

I also think that explaining what gives mass its mass, and what gives, charges its charges, and etc.... will also lead to the grand unifying theory. For we only have names for phenomina we've percieved but do not have a grasp on the butter that is between the bread.

It all leads to one thing, and ties in purpose.

I have been working on something that feels so close. I've found that a grand unifying theory, explains things down the chain, and tree... it ties in everything because it has a grasp on the origin of everything.

Qfwfq · 05-04-2006

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In reality the problem is so revered that if someone could actually answer the question of what mass is exactly, they would probably be received as the most ingenious physicist of all time.

Actually, if the Higgs boson is observed, then the standard model would be an answer. Work is well under way at CERN in Geneva...

arkain101 · 05-04-2006

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Peter Higgs has a model in which particle masses arise in a beautiful, but complex, progression. He starts with a particle that has only mass, and no other characteristics, such as charge, that distinguish particles from empty space. We can call his particle H. H interacts with other particles; for example if H is near an electron, there is a force between the two. H is of a class of particles called "bosons". We first attempt a more precise, but non-mathematical statement of the point of the model; then we give explanatory pictures.

In the mathematics of quantum mechanics describing creation and annihilation of elementary particles, as observed at accelerators, particles at particular points arise from "fields" spread over space and time. Higgs found that parameters in the equations for the field associated with the particle H can be chosen in such a way that the lowest energy state of that field (empty space) is one with the field not zero. It is surprising that the field is not zero in empty space, but the result, not an obvious one, is: all particles that can interact with H gain mass from the interaction.

http://www.phy.uct.ac.za/courses/phy...cle/higgs1.htm

I comprehend the concept. I do however find problems with it, for what thats worth. lol.

GOLDEN · 05-04-2006

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http://www.phy.uct.ac.za/courses/phy...cle/higgs1.htm
I do however find problems with [Higgs Theory], for what thats worth.

I agree with you, but I am very curious to hear you specify exactly what kind of problems you think Higg's theory suffers from.

Doctordick · 05-05-2006

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"He starts with a particle that has only mass, ..."

And, if the Higgs boson is the only entity with mass, where did the mass of the Higgs boson come from?

I say "mass" is what we have chosen to call momentum in the tau direction! And momentum in any direction is what we call the Fourier transform of the probability of finding the entity under discussion in that direction. In my analysis, there is but one entity so I guess it must be the "Higgs boson"!

If you want to understand my analysis, you need first to understand "A Universal Analytical Model of Explanation Itself".

Hey man, I can explain it all!

Have fun -- Dick