Theory of Temporal Relativity

[EWright]

Originally Posted by Qfwfq

EWright I think you definitely should deepen your grasp of relativity, as so far formulated with 4-vectors and Lorentz covariance, before proposing an alternative. The things you say can be viewed to some degree as a loose way of saying how Minkowski and others have described it in mathematical formalism, in part you are proposing a "manner of speaking" description which is non-standard but perhaps defendable.

One might say that you are trying to invent the wheel. Nothing wrong with that, if you choose to do so, but you might be told that you could have much more easily bought one, and of top quality.

Yes, and also without remarks about how funny something sounds (it was a valid objection).

Thank you Qfwfq, this is definitely a good point, and one I should address.

It doesn't surprise me if, as Will has suggested, I've hit upon a subset of other theory, as so far I have not taken it too far off course, I don't think. And with the tested accuracy of relativity theories, anything else that's accurate is bound to be close.

At the same time, many in the scientific community believe that in order to find a single theory that merges relativity and quantum theory, that some adjustments will likely have to be made to relativity. I am not proposing a complete theory to merge the two. I am looking considering an area that I believe may allow for minor adjustments to, and understanding of, previous relativity theory; and thus one possible direction for even a minor change to Einstein's views that could help advance our understanding of physics.

As I've stated in the past, I am a layperson, not a scientist. Much of my understanding comes from popular scientific publications, and granted I do not have the background to follow the more complicated formulaic versions. As you know, such things as "4-vectors and Lorentz covariance" are not covered as extensively in popular scientific literature, so I look for such direction from those of you here, so that I may follow up on it and attempt to apply it in a meaningful way to my ideas.

I would also like to urge those of you with a higher understanding of physics to keep an open mind and to consider what I propose, not as something restated, but as something with potential for advancing ideas. Its likely you'll see the potential for such direction where I may not, due to both your greater understanding of the mathematical application as well as your greater familiarity with current theory. My only concern is that current theory is so engrained in some persons that I feel they won't consider alternative reasoning. So again, I ask that you keep an open mind.

Also, I believe this first part of my theory should resemble prior relativity concepts the closest, as it is the basis for what is to come. In my next paper I attempt to explain some phenomena such as "dark matter", "dark energy" and mature galaxies in the young universe. I don't believe current theories describe these phenomena in an established way, so hopefully It won't resemble as close of an idea as current theories. I'll certainly be interested in feedback regarding the application of my theory to these aspects of the cosmos.

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[Tarantism]

the following is a message i sent to Eric Wright, but his request i am posting it here. i am simply copy/pasting the message, as i do not feel like writing the whole thing. the following is just personal speculation, i am no physicist...so please bear with me...

i would first like to compliment your ideas as they coincide greatly with my own ponderings and are interesting regardless. i hope that i can contribute to the structure of this theory as much as i can.

This is a static period before time as we know it sprang into existence, in which all dimensions of time existed equally with no arrow toward the future, but with the potential for such direction.

the reason i have chosen this quote is because here is where i believe i can contribute to the ideas first. i havent finished reading your thread so excuse me if i repeat anything that you have already said.

in my wonderings i have come to think of this place as the blueprint infinity. blueprint because i belive that it is the relm in which universes are made. infinity because i belive that this is the only palce where you can not only apply limiless time...but also limitless matter and possibilty. first let me provide a little background.

a pre-requisate to these thoughts is that i do belive in the multi-verse theory and Infinity is simply an attempt at explaining how they connect...though indirectly.

i belive that there are two characteristics that constitute a "universe". one is that it must contain matter (and anti-matter, but i will get back to that later). the other characteristic is that it must have a time...that is, it cannot be stagnant because if a universe is inactive then it cannot exist, it would simply be a space where nothing can progress.

so which came first, to matter or the time? in my thoughts i have come to the conclusion that it would have been simultanious. time would have been born because matter was born, and matter would exist because time existed. my attemt to explain this is to assign a kind of physical property to time. as i stated in my post, i see time as a kind of "hollow matter" of sorts...that is exerting no mass or energy and still existing. i call this a "timepiece".

another unique quality of the timepiece is that it is self-reproducing and only requires an inital piece to exist.

in my wonderings i have come to think of this place as the blueprint infinity.

the place i believe that the timepieces are made is the BI, or Blueprint Infinity. i see this place as a completely flat plane, where the only thing that can be made is initial sparks of energy that spawns two things: a time and an anti-time and they are being made at random, each spawning a new universe with undetermined sets of physical laws. my picture of this universe would be that of a double-tornado, following the idea of balloon expansion, with one balloon consisting of time (both linear and timepeice), and one cosisting of the opposite of these, so anti-matter, etc. these two "balloons" would be "connected" through the initail energy that sparked the time and matter.

initial spark creating balloon-matter universes
                               
                               XXXX <--expanding matter 
                                XXX
 -------infinity plane----O----------------------
                                YYY
                               YYYY <---Expanding anti-matter  

where the "O" is the inital energy.                             

[edit: the "O" is meant to line up with the "X" and "Y" sides of the universe.[/edit]

this inital expansion is what we call the big bang, the beginning of this universe. what the blueprint infinity aspect alters is that in this theory the singularity is no longer a singularity, but rather one in an infinate number of universes sparking on the plane of blueprint infinity.

i can expand a bit more on the initial energy if this makes any sense. im really just looking for the opinions of someone who has a greater understanding of these things, though this is mostly theoretical and deals with things that science has not begun to yet try to explain...as it deals with what could exist in a kind of "plain of purgatory", where universes exist parallell to each other...and all around each other for that matter.

one specific thing that i have not yet understood is weather or not the gravity in the universe is staying the same or if the gravity in our universe is getting stronger? if it is getting stronger, than two possibilities apply as to the fate of our own universe. one is that the two halves of the universe would switch, that is the matter would swith place with the anti matter. another option is that they would collide, spelling the end of our universe. the final option is that gravity is not getting stronger and therefore will not halt the expansion of this universe and it will keep going on, infinatey.

thanks for your time. if this doesnt make sense please let me know, im off to read the temporal relativity thread.

-Josh