TIME EXPLAINED (v2.1)

[Qfwfq]

Popular, you should try to be a bit more tactful when talking about someone's mistake.

Originally Posted by HydrogenBond

energy equals Planck's constant, times wavelength, times frequency.

Wavelength times frequency is equal to phase velocity. Energy is Planck's constant times frequency.

Textbooks often use so-called natural units, h = 1 is just that, a choice of units, but it's a separate matter from that of Joule's constant.

[cwes99_03]

The central portions of the two crosses are the same colour. You think the one on the left is grey and the one on the right is yellow. Not true. Tear a small hole in a piece of paper to make a peephole to mask out the context. Hold it up to one image after the other, and you realise that the central portion of the right-hand image really is grey.

Umm,care to try that again? The right hand image has a yellow center piece, measureable with a photometer.

To test it out on your computer, take the picture into a graphical editing software and use the program to copy the color. Then write down the hue saturation etc. Compare that to the color gray and the color yellow and you'll see the numbers fall inbetween.

[cwes99_03]

Pop, might I make a suggestion.

It seems you are writing several essays at once, all of which depend upon the others. The essay you cite here cites this essay, which is still unfinished. While I realize you want to keep moving on, and responses can be slow, you must also realize that by moving on, your new theories may be completely debunked by a mistake in an earlier theory. Try to solidify one before moving on. Additionally don't cite a theory here that depends on the theory already in question, it turns into cyclical reasoning which you will be stuck in like a whirlpool while everyone else tries to throw you a line.

[InfiniteNow]

Cwes,

Please send members a PM if you wish to coach them on their style. Threads are for topics, and your post above is .

[Farsight]

cewes: sometimes the local image reproduction isn't quite right. Try it here on the original website.

eChalk: optical illusions

Re style, the later MASS EXPLAINED essay is now finished, and doesn't mention the TIME EXPLAINED essay. I do expect to have to revisit essays in the light of feedback and revealed insight - hopefully not for any radical corrections, but if that's how it turns out, so be it. I need the feedback to be able to move forward.

[cwes99_03]

I visited the site. The matter is that the light being transmitted through the mask is fundamentally different due to the filter. Thus until you move the filter the light being transmitted is actually a different wavelength. Thus it is not just some perception as your initial post suggested.
I can't copy and test the flash based example to test whether or not they are physically changing the colors, but I would just about garauntee they are. If you could get unedited video in which the same basic effect is occuring then you would have nothing more than the first part of this post. It is not a matter of how your brain perceives the color because of surrounding colors, but a matter of what wavelength is being transmitted through the filter.

[Farsight]

Originally Posted by cwes99_03

I visited the site. The matter is that the light being transmitted through the mask is fundamentally different due to the filter. Thus until you move the filter the light being transmitted is actually a different wavelength. Thus it is not just some perception as your initial post suggested. I can't copy and test the flash based example to test whether or not they are physically changing the colors, but I would just about garauntee they are. If you could get unedited video in which the same basic effect is occuring then you would have nothing more than the first part of this post. It is not a matter of how your brain perceives the color because of surrounding colors, but a matter of what wavelength is being transmitted through the filter.

Sorry cewes, I think you're kidding yourself. Make a small hole in a piece of paper and hold it up to each central area in turn. Then you see that they're both grey.

Here's another one that's more dramatic.

[cwes99_03]

Sorry dude, but get yourself the software and compare for yourself. I can create a flash demo that changes the color of an object as the colors around it change and then tell you that it actually is all happening in your mind too. Well, I can't cause I don't know flash, but I can create two pictures and then suggest they are the same color. Truth is they aren't.

BTW what is supposed to be shown in the above image. I'm guessing that the b and the a are actually the same color? because in the picture it says that the squares are the same color, and it is obvious that the squares are not the same color.

[Farsight]

As obvious as it might seem, A and B are the same colour, and you're still kidding yourself. You're kidding yourself about this picture, and you're kidding yourself about the yellow and grey on the first picture. Check out the echalk website yourself. Follow the illusion 2 link then it's illusion 1 to see the A and B squares image. Use the "swatch" to see for yourself that A and B really are the same.

eChalk: optical illusions

What's interesting about this is colour perception thing is that it demonstrates how people cling to what they think is the truth. It's similar with time.

[cwes99_03]

And you cling to what you think is truth as well. Since we are on equal standing on this website with neither one of us being able to tell which is clinging and which is not (except by the means I put forth of actually picking apart the picture with a photometer or a digital editing program and measuring the hue saturation and other color levels in the picture) then neither one of us can tell the other that they are wrong.
But since, I have suggested a method for testing, and all you have done is told me I am wrong, then I suggest one of us has a better method than the other.