Cold Fusion?!

[chatlack]

Friends, it seems that in science society there have been some improvements going on about the subject, cold fusion. Fleischmann and Pons's experiments became partially accepted at least...
What do you have in mind?
Have you had any satisfying cold fusion experiment?

[Tormod]

"Partially accepted"? They became the laughing stock of the entire scientific world. Which parts were accepted?

[Farsight]

This seems a pretty good wiki article, Tormud:

Cold fusion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In your view is it slanted in favour of Cold Fusion?

The phrase pathological disbelief sprang out and caught my eye. I think that's something I know something about.

[chatlack]

Hmmzz...I also suspected a bias but they gave some explanations somehow convincing.
I have just caught the subject, I was away from scientific material, so I wanted to ask.
Really no result at all?

[Pyrotex]

Originally Posted by chatlack

Hmmzz...Really no result at all?

The basic and most important result that would confirm fusion is taking place is neutron emission. If fusion occurs at all, there must be neutron emission. It doesn't matter "how" the fusion is triggered.

Neutrons were detected only at the trace values you would expect from background reactions and radioactivity.

Nobody who has repeated the experiment has gotten significant numbers of neutrons. Pity.

[Rade]

Originally Posted by Pyrotex

The basic and most important result that would confirm fusion is taking place is neutron emission. If fusion occurs at all, there must be neutron emission. It doesn't matter "how" the fusion is triggered. Neutrons were detected only at the trace values you would expect from background reactions and radioactivity. Nobody who has repeated the experiment has gotten significant numbers of neutrons. Pity.

Have you seen research of Dr. Hagelstein at MIT--not sure he views neutrons as being "required" ? :
http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Hagelsteinmodelsfora.pdf

Also, you may find this MIT report on history of cold fusion to be of interest (rather long, but lots of information not widely reported):
http://www.infinite-energy.com/image...itcfreport.pdf

[Qfwfq]

It seems risible if no one modelled the interaction with the lattice in trying to understand the Fleischmann and Pons claim.

Anyway a method of cold fusion that does work, only it fails so far to reach breakeven, is by muon catalysis. Not many talk about it because there is no controversy but neither much hope of it becoming useful.

[Farsight]

Oh wow, and it's been kicking aorund for fifty years. Thanks Qfwfq.

Muon-catalyzed fusion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Essay]

Originally Posted by chatlack

Friends, it seems that in science society there have been some improvements going on about the subject, cold fusion. Fleischmann and Pons's experiments became partially accepted at least...
What do you have in mind?
Have you had any satisfying cold fusion experiment?

I remember reading (and photocopying) the Fleischman & Pons article in the Journal of Electroanalytical Chemistry & Interfacial Electrochemistry--back in '87 [or words to that effect] and 60 minutes just ran a segment on further developments:
Something to the effect that we can get extra heat, but it's unpredictable (in both time and amount).
DARPA was quoted with something about "anomolous" excess heat.
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Okay the cold-fusion idea of drawing the deuteron into the palladium lattice is sound enough physics or electrochemistry. The trick is how to get two deuterons to try and occupy the same position within the lattice.

What about taking that saturated palladium and putting it in an NMR? Couldn't we get the deuterons to resonate so that they fused?

My first thought was some sort of sudden positive charge to push the deuterons farther into the lattice (or negative charge from the other side--to pull them farther in) hoping that some of them will end up colliding and fusing.

But I think the NMR idea may be more effective.

Thoughts?

[InfiniteNow]

There was a special just this evening on 60 Minutes about how this work is getting renewed vigor with many positive results. The challenge is that they are struggling to explain them, and consistency seems to be an issue, as well.

Watch for yourself here:
More Than Junk Science - CBS News Video