Pain.

[Michaelangelica]

More on chili Chilli as a pain killer

News
October 03, 2007
Chili Pepper Cocktail Blunts Pain
Spicy compound clears the way for an anesthetic to silence pain sensation

Chili Pepper Cocktail Blunts Pain: Scientific American

[Pyrotex]

I cured a nasty tension headache with some homemade habenero salsa once. True story. Of course, my stomach was a little unsteady for a few hours -- but that headache was gone-diddly-gone.

[Michaelangelica]

Originally Posted by HappytheStripper

So does being immune to pain .. constitute being dead.. ??

I'ma look into this a bit more and be right back ..

Ashley

Yep
It is very hard to stay alive without pain.

orbsycli Where is he I miss him?

Strong pain relief minus the addiction


Morphine is an effective painkiller with a dark side. Its level of addiction is comparable to that of heroin and yet it is still the most used painkiller on our public hospitals and is also present in some over-the-counter painkillers, such as codeine.

Morphine was used during the American Civil War as an anaesthetic and was given to wounded soldiers to take home as a treatment for pain. Although it helped during the campaign, at the end of the war 400,000 people had the "disease of the army", better known as morphine addiction.

Despite morphine not being used as liberally as it was 200 years ago, there are still many people in the world presently classified as morphine addicted.

Velocity

[Michaelangelica]

History tells us that the bark of Salix Alba ( white willow?) has been used to relieve pain and reduce fever for over 2,000 years.
The Willow encompasses more than three hundred species. The White Willow is a low-growing deciduous tree that is native to Europe and northern Asia and naturalized in North America. It grows in damp, low places, especially along riverbanks, and thrives in moist-to-wet, heavy soil in sun, rising to a height of eighty feet.

Buzzing Bee: Basics On Willow Bark
also
Green Valley News & Sun - Columns > Columns > Your Health: Herbal extract may provide effective alternative to aspirin

Often said to be the source of inspiration for the first 20C drug- aspirin.
I think however it was more likely to have been meadowsweet.

These days aspirin is being re-discovered and used for a number of new complains. Some even say it may be a sort of necessary "vitamin".

Old-time gardeners used to promote the rooting of cuttings by putting a few willow branches/twigs in water overnight with the cuttings they had made of other plants. The Aussies on the list will appreciate it when I say it promoted rooting.

I haven't had a good look at this site any feedback please?
Pain Management Information Home Page

Some "arthritis"remedies
Natural Remedies for Treating Arthritis
Unfortunately "arthritis" is a very global term like having a "cold".
When we split up the symptoms /diagnosis a bit more we might be able to zero in on which old-time remedies work best.

[Michaelangelica]

A herbal remedy, Hyben Vital (stand. powder of a subspecies of Rosa canina fruits), reduces pain and improves general wellbeing in patients with osteoarthritis—a double-blind, placebo-controlled, randomised trial
. . .
subtype of Rosa canina and recently reported to have anti-inflammatory properties, on the symptoms of osteoarthritis. One hundred and twelve patients with osteoarthritis were randomly allocated to treatment with either Hyben Vital 5 g daily or an identical placebo for 3 months, followed immediately by the alternative treatment. The patients assessed changes in joint pain and stiffness after each treatment period on a 5-point categorical scale. General wellbeing, including mood, sleep quality and energy were also assessed and recorded in a personal diary.

The results in the two arms of the crossover differed markedly. Group A (placebo first) showed significantly more improvement from Hyben Vital than from placebo, p<0.0078 for pain and <0.0025 for stiffness. But Group B (Hyben Vital first) revealed a positive effect of the same order as for Hyben Vital in group A, not only from the active drug, but also from placebo
. . .
The data indicate that Hyben Vital reduces the symptoms of osteoarthritis. We interpret the marked differences in the responses of the two groups as indicating a strong “carryover” effect of Hyben Vital.

ScienceDirect - Phytomedicine : A herbal remedy, Hyben Vital (stand. powder of a subspecies of Rosa canina fruits), reduces pain and improves general wellbeing in patients with osteoarthritis&#x2014;a double-blind, placebo-controlled, randomised tria
How do you assess something as subjective as pain scientifically?
How come they didn't just use rose hips.?

[InfiniteNow]

Originally Posted by Michaelangelica

How do you assess something as subjective as pain scientifically?

It is largely subjective measures and self-report, however, given a large enough population sample, that data can provide enormous insight.

This page lists several of the primary scales in use:

Pain scale - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Did you see the hips on that rose? Sweet jeebus, I'd like to smell her pedals.



Measurement of pain. [Surg Clin North Am. 1999] - PubMed Result

Pain is a personal, subjective experience influenced by cultural learning, the meaning of the situation, attention, and other psychologic variables. Approaches to the measurement of pain include verbal and numeric self-rating scales, behavioral observation scales, and physiologic responses. The complex nature of the experience of pain suggests that measurements from these domains may not always show high concordance. Because pain is subjective, patients' self-reports provide the most valid measure of the experience. The VAS and the MPQ are probably the most frequently used self-rating instruments for the measurement of pain in clinical and research settings. The MPQ is designed to assess the multidimensional nature of pain experience and has been demonstrated to be a reliable, valid, and consistent measurement tool. A short-form MPQ is available for use in specific research settings when the time to obtain information from patients is limited and when more information than simply the intensity of pain is desired. The DDS was developed using sophisticated psychophysical techniques and was designed to measure separately the sensory and unpleasantness dimensions of pain. It has been shown to be a valid and reliable measurement of pain with ratio-scaling properties and has recently been used in a clinical setting. Behavioral approaches to the measurement of pain also provide valuable data. Further development and refinement of pain measurement techniques will lead to increasingly accurate tools with greater predictive powers.

[Moontanman]

Yes pain, pain and I have become old friends. If I wake up in the morning not in extreme pain I wonder if I am still alive. I have lived with chronic pain for more than 10 years now. Not much of anything doctors give me really works for long, I am nerve damages bitch! I do have good days and I live for those. Bad days I just sit with tears running down my cheeks and wish for the good days. I know all to well how little the medical profession knows about pain and what to do about it. To be honest I cannot explain it my self, I do know that opiates are not the answer but they do help deflect the question if not used too much. When bad days start I am irritable and difficult with everyone, I hate myself then but I try to make up for it on good days. My family and my dogs love me all the time, everyone else avoids me most of the time. Nothing else to say, no answers but I do keep track of the questions.

[Michaelangelica]

Pentagon's New Painkiller: Ancient Chinese Medicine

Posted Dec 11, 08 1:00 PM CST in Science & Health, US

(Newser) – US Air Force doctors deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan next year will have a new medical weapon in their arsenal: acupuncture. Military physicians, pleased with the success of treating wounded troops at home, will begin teaching battlefield medics how to fight severe or chronic pain by inserting tiny needles under soldiers’ skin, the Baltimore Sun reports.

“This is one of the fastest pain attenuators in existence,”

Pentagon's New Painkiller: Ancient Chinese Medicine - US news | Newser

[Michaelangelica]

Body Makes Own Aspirin Compound

A study in the Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry finds that humans can manufacture their own salicylic acid, the major part of aspirin. Another study, in Nature, shows that plants make their own salicylic acid at wound sites. Karen Hopkin reports

http://www.sciam.com/podcast/episode...sc=WR_20090113