Does capital punishment reduce crime?

[Fishteacher73]

This is a bleed over(forgive the bad pun) from the zero-tolerance thread.

1) Does capital punishment reduce crime?

2) Is captital punishment moral?

[IrishEyes]

Thanks for bringing this here, this one should get fun...

1) maybe
2) it depends on an individual's definition of morality

[Stargazer]

Originally Posted by Fishteacher73

This is a bleed over(forgive the bad pun) from the zero-tolerance thread.

1) Does capital punishment reduce crime?

I'm not sure that it does. Do you have any good sources with statistics?

2) Is captital punishment moral?

I think it's wrong and does not have a place in a civilised society. I think it's more of a revenge type of punishment... if it can be called punishment at all. Certainly there's no punishment in being dead. I would suspect that the real punishment is the time the sentenced criminal is waiting to be executed. Even if this experience, for some reason, would actually turn this criminal into a better person, it's obviously lost and wasted as soon as he's executed.

[sanctus]

1)No, because if you do something that you know that if you get caught you get capital punishment, you care less anyway. This implies, that it reduces crime, as those who don't care less won't do it; still against for answer to point 2)

2) On which moral?If I talk about my conception of morality no, simply because how can we be 100% sure the person really committed the crime? How can we judge if a crime does need a capital punishment or not? and mainly why do we never consider to look in the past of a person to understand why somebody did it, try to help him/her out of the situation by other means?

[Fishteacher73]

I have seen a number a sources that say that CP is not a deterrent. I don't have any handy, but can speak to a friend of mine (Hesd of the local Amnesty International group that is a lawyer that is active fighting the US's stance on CP. He should have plenty.)

I can find no moral concept that is not theologically based (and contadicted in the same source..eye for an eye, thou shall not kill, etc.). If one feels murder is wrong, one by default I feel should be opposed to the sanction murder of someone else.

[Fishteacher73]

Much less to get into the ability to decide guilt...

[mother engine]

try looking at statistics concerning the reported crime rate in states with a death penality and in states without comparing cultural mores and the number of people in each place. i am not sure that comparisons between countries would be as trust worthy because of the higher level in cultural differences. personally i think killing prisoners has more to do with the level of violence in well thought out crimes as opposed to street crime and family murders. the only moral aspect i see stems from the idea of justice which i have personal distain for but which may serve a purpose socially speaking.

[zadojla]

1) No.

2)Yes, if and only if guilt of a crime of appropriate seriousness is fairly established. (And not like 18th C. England, where you could be hanged for stealing a shilling.)

[Aki]

You know what we have here in Canada? People who have attempted murder can get away without going to jail. They only have to stay home, and basically they can do whatever they want. I think that's just pathetic.

[Yvonne]

Originally Posted by Fishteacher73

This is a bleed over(forgive the bad pun) from the zero-tolerance thread.

1) Does capital punishment reduce crime?

2) Is captital punishment moral?

1: No! Capital punishment does not reduce crime.

People in the States have not stopped commiting crime, I would say just the opposite. Preventive action is so much better, and so much cheaper in the long run.

2: No! One innocent person excecuted is one two many.

My arguments are that as long as there is a even a question about wheter race and money plays a part in if the offender get capital punishment and people can give false evidence and testimoney something as drastic as take someones life is out of the question. I don't remember the case, but in the States there was a woman working with DNA giving false evidence and thereby sending innocent people to jail and the electric chair.

Also it will never give the offender a chance to better him or herself and be a productive member of socienty. It's a human right to be allowed to right your mistakes.

I sometimes thinks people in Norway get low sentences, but I rather that than the opposite.

Yvonne