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Old 09-26-2008   #1 (permalink)
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Less than an hour to go, and it looks like we have a fight. Johnny has graciously maverickly decided not to pull out of the debate after all.

Nothing more to post really; just giving a place to focus on just the 1 debate. Hindsight is 20/20 they say, so let's later here say what we saw with clarity.

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Does anyone know if it is going to be broadcast live on the internet? I'd like to watch it, but I don't have tv.


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Does anyone know if it is going to be broadcast live on the internet? I'd like to watch it, but I don't have tv.
Always a good resource for such things:

C-SPAN | Capitol Hill, The White House and National Politics

http://c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN_wm.aspx

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Live in 15: MySpace.com - 2008 Presidential Debates, live at MyDebates.org. In partnership with the Commission on Presidential Debates and MySpace Impact.


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John McCain has become the embodiment of the characatured policitians he formerly hunted and killed. He is now his own version of his former prey, the target which previously helped him gain the reputation he now enjoys. It's sad for me to watch.
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John McCain has become the embodiment of the characatured policitians he formerly hunted and killed. He is now his own version of his former prey, the target which previously helped him gain the reputation he now enjoys. It's sad for me to watch.
I just watched the debate McCain bats his eyes like a toad in a hail storm.


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I found the debate remarkably unremarkable*. It was Barack's to lose, he didn't, so he won.

*the eye blinking is genrally remarkable, and a couple campaigns ago I actually started keeping note-pad counts of 'eye-blinks-per-minute' for politicians & pundits alike. I never used the data to draw any hard correlations, but those with the higher BPM really bugged me.


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I found the debate remarkably unremarkable*. It was Barack's to lose, he didn't, so he won.

*the eye blinking is genrally remarkable, and a couple campaigns ago I actually started keeping note-pad counts of 'eye-blinks-per-minute' for politicians & pundits alike. I never used the data to draw any hard correlations, but those with the higher BPM really bugged me.
Good call Turtle

People who lie usually touch their face, scratch their noses, and avoid eye contact.

Politicians are trained liars, so I could see where eye blinking could be the manuerism to observe.

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People who lie usually touch their face, scratch their noses, and avoid eye contact. ... so I could see where eye blinking could be the manuerism to observe.
Considering this is a science forum....

Eye blinking - what was the studio lighting like - intense ? ; Scratch their nose - did somebody have a cold/hayfever ? ; Avoid eye contact - or do you mean camera contact ? ; Those um, er's of Obama - heck, I do it myself when trying to compose an answer.

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Considering this is a science forum....

Eye blinking - what was the studio lighting like - intense ? ; Scratch their nose - did somebody have a cold/hayfever ? ; Avoid eye contact - or do you mean camera contact ? ; Those um, er's - heck, I do it myself when trying to compose an answer.
Johnny wouldn't look at Berry is the eye contact thingy people are noticing.

Here's a bit on psychology of blinking.

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Take blinking, for instance. The eyes blink without our control when we are anxious, scared, bored, tired, following the learning or storing of information. We blink less frequently when we are attending to both visually and aurally presented information; thus, when reading, our blink rate may go down to four to five blinks per minute while we "normally" blink anywhere between 15 to 30 times per minute.

According to John Stern, Ph.D., professor emeritus of psychology at Washington University in St. Louis, and pioneer of blinking research, there is solid evidence that people blink frequently at points in time when they momentarily stop taking in and processing information. ...
The eyes have it: Candidates' eyes could be revealing


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