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Hmmmm... Wonder if President Palin will require that all hospitals receiving federal funding teach faith healing as a legitimate medical specialty...
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Would one of you Obamians please tell me EXACTLY what you think Obama is going to do that gets you so excited? Please don't just say anything is better than Bush, that doesn't show much thought.
I think what you should do on this thread as a Palinian, is tell us what you think Palin is going to do that gets you so excited.

She has been touted as the source of revitalization to the dragging McCain campaign, which suggests that Republicans aren't able to get very excited about their candidate. What is her secret?


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She has been touted as the source of revitalization to the dragging McCain campaign, which suggests that Republicans aren't able to get very excited about their candidate. What is her secret?
I am not a Palin fan, but I think i can answer this question. Palin WAS a revitalizing prospect for the McCain campaign because she legitimately is a Washington outsider. She is the genuine article for a party that touts itself as the party of small town America.

She is now floundering because people are realizing that they don't want a "Hockey Mom"/"Joe Six Pack" to be their leader. Sounds great to them at first but then some of them start to look introspectively and realize that they themselves are not qualified to be President, why trust some one just like them.
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I have been damaged financially by redistribution of income schemes and higher taxes, but so far, I have not been damaged by praying Americans. Just lucky I guess.
Yeah, me too. As a member of the middle class, I went three years without a merit pay increase due to a company pay freeze as my health insurance, utilities, transportation costs, and food expenses continued to increase at an accelerated rate. Meanwhile, executive pay and bonuses were increasing to as much as 400 times the average worker. Those wealth redistribution schemes benefitting the rich were really kicking my ass. Not to mention, as a member of the middle class, the percentage of taxes that I have had to pay relative to my income are higher than those same executives. Bush's tax cuts weren't really meant for me.

Looks like all we have to do is become rich and our problems would be solved, huh questor? Why doesn't every one just do that?


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Did anybody else notice Palin mentioned "Shia extremists" instead of Sunni?
That struck me too; but it was part of a phrase, "...Al Queda and Shia extremists...." I remember thinking that, well, that's everyone in Iraq, pretty much (that she pointed out we still need to protect ourselves from, I think it was).
Y'know, not all at once, ...now; but eventually those two pools are fed by the general population of Sunni & Shia.

We're currently paying $300/month to a million Sunni each (see the Sunni Awakening).
...so they can protect themselves (and so they will stop blowing us up too).

When Sarah says that those citable sources (I forget which General and AQ leader) say that the "central front in the war on terror is in Iraq," she doesn't mention that those quotes are from after we started the war. ...yknow, it wasn't the "central front" until we went in. Now maybe that's a good thing, that's debatable; but it shouldn't be a credible response to "our focus should have been on Afganistan...."

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If you want to know who is dumbing down schoolkids right now on a daily basis, read about the National Education Association. Read about the school situation in the District of Columbia. Read about other lousy schools and tell me who you think is causing the problem.
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If you want to know who is dumbing down schoolkids right now on a daily basis, read about the National Education Association. Read about the school situation in the District of Columbia. Read about other lousy schools and tell me who you think is causing the problem.
So your argument is that just because one group may be having an adverse effect on our children that it absolves other groups that have an adverse effect of responsibility? That would be a logical fallacy my friend.
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Am I to believe that Palin didn't make a fool of herself again? That sucks, I was so hoping for some light entertainment. I don't think I want to watch the VP debate now.


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Am I to believe that Palin didn't make a fool of herself again? That sucks, I was so hoping for some light entertainment. I don't think I want to watch the VP debate now.
I'd still recommend watching it. There are some humorous moments, like Biden basically (and accidentally) stating he is gay and Palin making bad jokes and such. IMO, she did make a fool of herself, but not nearly as bad as the Couric interview.


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I don't defend the unbelievable Golden Parachute packages some CEO's get. Why don't their board of directors prevent it? Unless you are a stockholder, it doesn't directly affect you.
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