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Okaly dokaly. T-minus 1.5 hours & counting. Here's a link to the debate live online for non-TV parties: >> http://www.myspace.com/mydebates

I got the VCR warmin' up and I'm lookin' forward to some gaffs & guffaws. Post your reactions, predictions, rants & raves on the VP deabate here.


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I'm predicting that she'll sound a lot more coherent, not like the previous interviews. But if not, McCain will really have an uphill battle.

I'm looking forward to this like it's Christmas Eve, but I just can't believe we'll hear anything as funny as before.

...but here's hoping....


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OMG!!!
She another one of those that says NUCULUR !!!

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Evasive irrelevant folksy rambling. She is cute though


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I'm predicting that she'll sound a lot more coherent, not like the previous interviews. But if not, McCain will really have an uphill battle.

I'm looking forward to this like it's Christmas Eve, but I just can't believe we'll hear anything as funny as before.

...but here's hoping....


UPDATE:
OMG!!!
She another one of those that says NUCULUR !!!
Well, another remarkably unremarkable debate...for the most part. I missed the 'nucular', but I caught Palin call Joe 'O'Biden' , and she said "He [John Mcain] is the one to leave...lead." Somebody say Freud?

Yes Joe stumbled on a word, but it didn't make me laugh.

Palin got John's policies out there pretty good... get ready for 4 more years of the last 8. "That's drill baby drill." I have to laugh or go postal. Do the right thing and send John & Sarah back to their old jobs.


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33% no winner,46% Biden wins 21% Palin cannot verify this yet but the here is what I got second hand.


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33% no winner,46% Biden wins 21% Palin cannot verify this yet but the here is what I got second hand.
I saw some number like that too.
Certainly all things being equal, Biden won; but Sarah "won" by hanging on successfully. I'm sure the Palin promoters will feel vindicated.
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Isn't it amazing how quickly a person can be turned into a passable politician.
She got in enough emotionally charged phrases: "white flag of surrender," "Shia extremist," "hungry markets," "rear the ugly head of abuse," "Joe Six-Pack," her "mom" experience, and her "oil and gas regulator" experience, I guess; ...and of course she's always proud to be an American, "like John McCain."

She did sound more coherent, but only by sticking to what she wanted to get said; not by answering the questions, or responding to particular points. Even her cuteness seemed a tad rehearsed this time; a little too cute and folksy ...as one pundit said, like Gidget goes to Washington.
Hey, who was that last name she mentioned, after Lieberman, Rudy, Romney, and who? Lingle, or Lengle?

There were a couple of times that she strayed and started meshing talking points together; but usually she dodged and weaved effectively, avoiding those situations. I thought she seemed the most comfortable when she was answering the Darfur question. I could see that she felt her confidence on that one.

She was the true Sarah only twice, IMO; and it was when she was speaking of Israel! Her eyes were looking into the future when she talked about building that Embassy in Jerusalem (probably just the back door to the giant underground bases we built in Iraq).
And that moment of clarity came in the middle of one of those beauty-contest moments, "...also, still... despite, again..." after talking about the "two-state solution" question. That makes me fear that, like Bush, she's a rapturist. But aside from that paranoia....

The funniest moment was when, in talking about the environment, she talked about "conserving our petroleum proje... products...."
Ooop, too late! I heard that Freudian slip... the petro projects are what she's into.

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What the heck does she mean about the "flexibility" of the VP duties? Sounds like she been listening to Cheney....

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She did sound more coherent, but only by sticking to what she wanted to get said; not by answering the questions, or responding to particular points. Even her cuteness seemed a tad rehearsed this time; a little too cute and folksy ...as one pundit said, like Gidget goes to Washington.
Quite right. Coherence is easy when offered in tiny bites (of the sound variety).

Regularly pivoting to off-topic tangents back to her practiced and drilled talking points helps, too.

I wonder what she'd do in real life if she didn't have time to cram the night before a test.



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Viewpoint: Sarah Palin's Foreign Policy Follies - TIME
A number of commentators, including The Atlantic's James Fallows and Slate's Christopher Beam, have said that Palin resembled, in Beam's words, "a high-schooler trying to BS her way through a book report," which is an insult to both high-schoolers and B.S.
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While I don't disagree with anything you guys have said thus far, I do believe she did exactly what she needed to do in this debate. With the low expectation of her performance, she appeared to come back strong. Of course, appearances are often deceiving. The Right-wingers will be riding high for a while after this one.

"Gidget goes to Washington" Good one Essay!


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Biden had a few "senior moments" when it came to public speaking tonight..

Palin is a sexy little mamma!
Too bad her politics are rotten, and she never answered any question head on.

If you played a drinking game where you took a shot everytime she says "maverick", you'd be piss drunk.
She's all cliche.

and if everybody askes themselves this simple question:
Are we better off after 8 years of George Bush Jr. ??

the answer is a resounding HELL NO!
and You already know who to vote for..

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Biden had a few "senior moments" when it came to public speaking tonight..
That was a funny part too;
...that it was the third time that he mentioned Obama, before he finally got his running mate's name right.

...all that practice, and you forget the most obvious thing....

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