Presidential Debate: Round 2

[REASON]

After tonight, I hope I never have to hear another word about LAPEL PINS!

Once again, the debate spoke for itself. Anyone with an honest and objective point of view can easily tell who has a better grasp of the issues, a better plan for dealing with them, a better ability to convey his message, and a more genuine representation of change from the current imbecilic, incompetent, ideologically driven, repressive, secretive, corrupt, dishonest, hegemonic batch of morons that has been fumbling through the last eight years at our expense and the expence of our foreign relations, but not surprisingly to the great benefit of their wealthy cohorts.

Enough!

[Racoon]

Originally Posted by REASON

After tonight, I hope I never have to hear another word about LAPEL PINS!

Once again, the debate spoke for itself. Anyone with an honest and objective point of view can easily tell who has a better grasp of the issues, a better plan for dealing with them, a better ability to convey his message, and a more genuine representation of change from the current imbecilic, incompetent, ideologically driven, repressive, secretive, corrupt, dishonest, hegemonic batch of morons that has been fumbling through the last eight years at our expense and the expence of our foreign relations, but not surprisingly to the great benefit of their wealthy cohorts.

Enough!

So you're voting for McCain?

[REASON]

Originally Posted by Racoon

So you're voting for McCain?

Not if I can help it.

[Zythryn]

Objectively I don't believe McCain did what he needed to. He needed a win, even if by just a little bit, to stop Obama's growing momentum.
As was, I think it was a draw or a slight win by Obama.
I liked McCain's stance on nuclear.
I liked that Obama spelled out his health insurance plan with some more detail than in the last debate.

McCain's biggest screw up for me was when he was asked about giving congress a hard date for fixing social security and medicare.
Obama went first and didn't answer the question.
McCain opened his answer by saying "I will answer the question" (chuckle). He then FAILED TO ANSWER THE QUESTION! He is an idiot. He had a great oportunity to score some serious points. Not only did he fail to score those points, he drew attention away from Obama's failure and onto his own.

[Flying Binghi]

Obamas got it - He's got that presidential 'glow' to him. At any rate, there will not be a women in the oval office for some time yet. (re, the elderly McCain carks it, and the fill in is....)

[Zythryn]

I love this web site FactCheck.org.
They have a great summary of the debate at FactCheck.org: FactChecking Debate No. 2.
I really wish this type of review (purely fact based) would get more media attention.

[Flying Binghi]

Via "Factcheck" -

"For full details, and additional quibbles, please read our Analysis section"

Me-thinks you are a little toooooo analytical Zythryn. Could I recomend a daily dose of opraaaha to calm your nerves

[questor]

Neither of these candidates has the slightest clue about what is happening in the global meltdown or what to do about it. Since there is so much pressure from the left on Obama, one may think that ,should he win, we will segue into
a high tax liberal utopia where capitalism will become just another dirty word.
The mighty engine of free enterprise that created this paradise of America we live in will crumble in power and importance while China takes over as the new superpower. The market doesn't care about race, color, or gender, but it does care about efficiency. Efficiency demands a certain amount of ruthlessness and good management that we no longer possess.

[Turtle]

Originally Posted by questor

... Efficiency demands a certain amount of ruthlessness and good management that we no longer possess.

Poppycock! Efficiency is as efficiency does and ruthlessness the same. Just not happy unless someone is gettin' brutalized, eh Questy? Goin' maverick on us are ya? ENOUGH!!!!

The general hum on the vine this morning is Obama for the win.

[pgrmdave]

I disagree with the idea of ruthlessness being needed, but we do need some good, scrupulous management that is more concerned with the company's profits than their own. For AIG execs to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars after having to beg the government to help them is absolutely shameful.