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Re: What is good government?

A good government gives the people a unifying goal, it would just be better if the goal wasn't genocide.


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Old 07-20-2005   #22 (permalink)
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Good government in a perfect world would only do what was written in the preemble, form a more perfect union, provide for common defense, promote general wealfare. The less any government does, the better. If you have worked with berocrates, you know how they waste time and money filling out their precious forms. I often joke about developing a weapon which desolves all the paper in a several mile radius. Such a weapon would make me king, then everything would go smoothly as long as you no one trys to take it away from me. Penal colonies, anyone?
Most problems society faces could be well handled on a local basis. The more you centralize power the more rotten it becomes. Our system would work great if they all followed what the Constitution layed down with 3 branches checking each others powers. Now we have courts writting laws, the president has power to be a dictator under national emergency, ( don't blame Bush for this, from Rosevelt on through Jimmy Carter that coffin was built. Power corrupts, history proves it.
Here's a poem I wrote about it
COME DANCE THE CIRCLE

Until a time that fleeting dreams meet beds of fertile soil
And all the ageless faces turn from anger
The poor man’s back remains bent from his life of toil
But the wealthy still retain their swagger
This system of injustice leads a body’s blood to boil
Til the meekest of them all grasps a dagger
Can’t you see where this is leading
Don’t you know what this is breeding
That the crop that you’ve been seeding’s almost grown

Now history records the times repression had its rule
The common man was herded just like cattle
Power is the drug of choice for every ruthless fool
And every leading shaman shakes his rattle
To feed their boundless hunger they abuse us like a tool
A tool that becomes a sword in battle
The masses they are grumbling
While the mighty walls are crumbling
Till the ruthless kings come tumbling to the ground

The pens of graceful statesmen have produced great governments
Promise peace and safety to all classes
Til the germs of greed and power cause the mixture to ferment
Peace is just the rifle shot that misses
The common man is trod upon to such a great extent
Comfort’s just the rich upon their asses
The sheep have stopped their bleating
The Sunday morning greeting
Becomes the steady beating of war drums

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I had someone try and tell me that the idea government would be a dictatorship with the occasional assasination... I put i bit of thought into it and im not to sure what he meant, and whether he said it in jest or not?


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Good government in a perfect world would only do what was written in the preemble, form a more perfect union, provide for common defense, promote general wealfare. The less any government does, the better. If you have worked with berocrates, you know how they waste time and money filling out their precious forms. I often joke about developing a weapon which desolves all the paper in a several mile radius. Such a weapon would make me king, then everything would go smoothly as long as you no one trys to take it away from me. Penal colonies, anyone?
Most problems society faces could be well handled on a local basis. The more you centralize power the more rotten it becomes. Our system would work great if they all followed what the Constitution layed down with 3 branches checking each others powers. Now we have courts writting laws, the president has power to be a dictator under national emergency, ( don't blame Bush for this, from Rosevelt on through Jimmy Carter that coffin was built. Power corrupts, history proves it.
Here's a poem I wrote about it
COME DANCE THE CIRCLE

Until a time that fleeting dreams meet beds of fertile soil
And all the ageless faces turn from anger
The poor man’s back remains bent from his life of toil
But the wealthy still retain their swagger
This system of injustice leads a body’s blood to boil
Til the meekest of them all grasps a dagger
Can’t you see where this is leading
Don’t you know what this is breeding
That the crop that you’ve been seeding’s almost grown

Now history records the times repression had its rule
The common man was herded just like cattle
Power is the drug of choice for every ruthless fool
And every leading shaman shakes his rattle
To feed their boundless hunger they abuse us like a tool
A tool that becomes a sword in battle
The masses they are grumbling
While the mighty walls are crumbling
Till the ruthless kings come tumbling to the ground

The pens of graceful statesmen have produced great governments
Promise peace and safety to all classes
Til the germs of greed and power cause the mixture to ferment
Peace is just the rifle shot that misses
The common man is trod upon to such a great extent
Comfort’s just the rich upon their asses
The sheep have stopped their bleating
The Sunday morning greeting
Becomes the steady beating of war drums

Douglas W. Coulter 1994

Except the Lord build the house, they labour in vain that build it
MajorD, I must commend you for placing one of the most eloquent posts that I've had the pleasure to read since I've been here at Hypography. I must offer you a belated welcome to this forum, I'm sure you will have many other fine posts to grace us with in the near future...................................infamous


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a good government is another persons worst nightmare. it's all opinions.


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If there were a universal idea of the best government, there would be no need for democracy. If there were a true enlightened despot, there would be no need for the occasional assassination.


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