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Old 08-31-2005   #1 (permalink)
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Talking Moneyless society : Would it benefit society?

What are the pro's and con's of a society based on Money compared to a society not based on money?

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Old 08-31-2005   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Moneyless society : Would it benefit society?

no

frankly money is power, as with sex it is a prime motivater in the capitalist society (so far the most powerful and succesful functioning human society... to some and purely IMO)

even without money you need to calculate a persons worth. BS about equality is settled this way. some people simply are worth more than others and money is the best incentive to bring those people to the surface. (they may not be the best out there but the system keeps the world turning).

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a society not based on money?
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Re: Moneyless society : Would it benefit society?

A pure barter system (one w/o money...ie one cow for 2 acres of land) can only really be useful in local agricultural societies. Would you work for sony if they only gave you TV's? They guy growing corn may already have one and not want what you have to trade..

Money although technically worthless represents value. It is accepted because we all have agreed to use it. But only in a limited scope... I doubt your NYC taxi driver will take Euros..

A currecny has been in place for many years (around 1000 BCE Iron coins have been found).
It is just easier.


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Its not only *what* you want, but also *when* you might want it. If I'm building a business, I may need lots of goods and labor long before I have a product for people to start trading with. How do I get the goods and the labor when I don't have anything to give them. Investment and growth demand the liquidity that money provides, and the ability to create a banking system that provides capital when none exists by charging interest greases the wheels even more.

Without money, we just wouldn't be civilized!

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People living in a society without money would have no motivation, and thus would just be sitting around all day and partying all night.
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People living in a society without money would have no motivation, and thus would just be sitting around all day and partying all night.
...and the problem will be? Where do I sign up?


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...and the problem will be? Where do I sign up?
The problem is that you will have to pay membership fees - in the form of taxes.


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its a shame people don't get banned (exiled) from societies, birthrates not being high enough, dispite our best efforts..

criminals should be forced to work on farms.. doing all the menial labour.. wide sardonic grin.

if a person commits a crime against me he and is properly convicted he should become my indentured servant until he is redeemed.

to avoid "cruel and unusual punishment" silliness my punishment would have to be approved by a jury of sorts.

it might not erradicate crime but it surely would make punishment more fun...


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Alxian, that's a bit off-topic.

But to add to what you say, I'd say the worst, and probably most effective punishment for the most heinous crimes imaginable would be to tie the perpetrators down on a sofa in front of the biggest screen TV you can find and loop 'Days of our Lives' continuously at top volume.

That'll teach the bastards.


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its so incoherent and meaningless, they would scream on and on.

double the amount of commercials.


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