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Old 02-02-2006   #1 (permalink)
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Google censors Google for China

I find myself concerned that Google, our beloved mega-search engine, in order to reach the Chinese market was forced to censor itself.


Google move 'black day' for China

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The company, whose motto is "Don't do evil", launched its new Chinese service less than a week after resisting efforts by the US Department of Justice to make it disclose data on what people were searching for.


Google has lost ground to Beijing-based web search company Baidu

"Google's statements about respecting online privacy are the height of hypocrisy in view of its strategy in China," said Reporters Without Borders (RWB) in a press release on Wednesday.
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Is my concern unwarranted? What do you think about this and similar trends?
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Re: Google censors Google for China

Just how often does this occur in other ways? I don't mean to attack Google (per se) for trying to enter a new market, just how can such a huge population of people not find away around censorship of this nature?
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Re: Google censors Google for China

Is Hypography available in China?

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Re: Google censors Google for China

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Is Hypography available in China?

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Doubtful, considering the nature of what we do here.

Administrators... Any evidence one way or the other?
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Re: Google censors Google for China

I don't know if it's available. I'm sure T or C1ay will be checking on that one though. I am fairly certain that we have no members from China. I know that we are available in other Eastern countries. We have members from Malaysia and Thailand that I know of, and even a few from the Middle East.

Good questions, and we'll see what we can find out.


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I have some work contacts in China. I will see if I can find out from a user perspective.

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I have some work contacts in China. I will see if I can find out from a user perspective.
If they're work contacts, would they have access to a different network than the Chinese citizens (is that proper term?? seems... off???)

What I mean is, if you go over to China for work, would you be restricted to the same internet limitations as the people living in China? That'd bite.
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Did anyone ever hear back on any of this? Are there any Hypographers in China? Would one of us still be able to access if we logged in through one of their networks?
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I confirmed today that you can access Hypography in China. Should have had a hit from a Chinese IP today. Next step is to see if they can join and post from there. I will let you know when I find out.

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