Utah: what happened?

[J.B]

Originally Posted by Boerseun

Uh... well, er... no.

The more people with money, the better the quality of living.

Money? I say it is how well people treat each other rich or poor, that makes for a better quality of life.

Originally Posted by Boerseun

There's a couple of seriously white trailer parks in your neck o' the woods that'll blow your assumption right out of the water.

Pure Racism.

Originally Posted by Boerseun

I've no mood to get involved in a discussion of your race views, and whatever it is, I've heard them all. I'm from South Africa, the country that invented millions of imaginary reasons to support your claim, and believe you me - we have heard all possible arguments pro and con, from both sides of the spectrum. But take it from me, the above statement is simply flat-out wrong.

South Africa?
Here is a black mans opinion on South Africa:

There's no longer apartheid and there's black rule in South Africa, but what's the story there now?
http://capmag.com/article.asp?ID=1376

Originally Posted by Boerseun

The only reason I've even opened this thread is because this specific posting of yours was reported. I don't see the relevance to the topic.

Ya Gee what was I thinking?

It is just so crazy of me to believe that somehow the race of a community could have any bearing on there quality of life.

[J.B]

Originally Posted by TheBigDog

Hmmm...

While stereotypes tend to be based on fact they are not absolutes. If you want to make an argument for segragation or race supremacy then bring it. I was just reading a collection of Malcolm X speaches so I am game. But don't do it by dropping bombs and running. Malcolm did not approve of that and neither do I.

Or perhaps you just have a sense of humor. If that is your angle you need to take better aim at the funny bone.

Bill

In the Los Angeles Jail system blacks and hispanics are seperated by race, do you agree with this policy?

L.A. County Jail in Lockdown After Race Riots

Most of the L.A. County Jail System Is in Lockdown After Riots Between Black and Hispanic Inmates

Most of Los Angeles County's jail system was on lockdown Monday after fighting broke out between blacks and Hispanics at two jails over the weekend. One inmate died in the fighting, and more than 100 others were injured.

Black and Hispanic inmates at the North County Correctional Facility were segregated Saturday after the fighting broke out among 1,800 to 2,000 inmates and a black inmate was killed. Craton said the inmates were still separated early Monday.

Normally, authorities can't segregate prisoners based on race or ethnicity, but legal advisers said it can be done in emergency situations, said Sam Jones, chief custody officer of the county jail system.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/LegalCenter...C-RSSFeeds0312

[TheBigDog]

Originally Posted by J.B

In the Los Angeles Jail system...
L.A. County Jail...

Most of the L.A. County Jail System...

Most of Los Angeles County's jail system...

Black and Hispanic inmates at the North County Correctional Facility...

Normally, authorities can't segregate prisoners based on race or ethnicity, but legal advisers said it can be done in emergency situations, said Sam Jones, chief custody officer of the county jail system.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/LegalCenter...C-RSSFeeds0312

Are you saying that prison life can be used as an analogy for all of society?

Bill

[InfiniteNow]

Originally Posted by J.B

In the Los Angeles Jail system blacks and hispanics are seperated by race, do you agree with this policy?

No. I think jails are stupid. Punishment just motivates people how to get away with things, not to avoid doing them.


Let me ask again, though... How is this relevant to the current thread?

[J.B]

Originally Posted by TheBigDog

Are you saying that prison life can be used as an analogy for all of society?

Bill

What I was "saying" was a question:
Why did you side step this question?

In the Los Angeles Jail system blacks and hispanics are seperated by race, do you agree with this policy?

Why would you copy my quote without the question I asked?

Watch me answer your question:

Originally Posted by TheBigDog

Are you saying that prison life can be used as an analogy for all of society?

No, but prison life can be "used as an analogy for" some "of society".

[Racoon]

This is Utah what happened?

Not LA County Jail what happened?

The best we can hope to do as Individuals is TRY and have a positive impact on those around us despite socio-ethnic-economic differences...

I think I should follow my own advice and stay the hell out of the way
bye-bye Utah ... I'll miss your high standard of living...

[J.B]

Originally Posted by InfiniteNow

No. I think jails are stupid. Punishment just motivates people how to get away with things, not to avoid doing them.?

What do you suggest then.

Originally Posted by InfiniteNow

Let me ask again, though... How is this relevant to the current thread?

I was responding to TheBigDog question.

but to answer your question.

I guess, that the quality of life in the L.A Jails improved for hispanics and blacks once they were separated.

[TheBigDog]

Originally Posted by J.B

What I was "saying" was a question:
Why did you side step this question?

In the Los Angeles Jail system blacks and hispanics are seperated by race, do you agree with this policy?

Why would you copy my quote without the question I asked?

Watch me answer your question:



No, but prison life can be "used as an analogy for" some "of society".

I am not sidestepping. I am asking for clarification. It helps me to answer your question.

Do me a favor J.B, start a new thread with the title of what you wish this discussion to be about. I will join in. I think this is a great discussion, but it needs to be its own topic. Together we can prevent Utah from becoming a prison state.

Thanks!

Bill

[InfiniteNow]

Originally Posted by TheBigDog

Do me a favor J.B, start a new thread with the title of what you wish this discussion to be about. I will join in. I think this is a great discussion, but it needs to be its own topic. Together we can prevent Utah from becoming a prison state.

I'll do it...


http://hypography.com/forums/social-...es-prison.html

[InfiniteNow]

Originally Posted by J.B

In the Los Angeles Jail system blacks and hispanics are seperated by race, do you agree with this policy?

I suggest we ask this elsewhere, as it's not relevant to the current thread.

http://hypography.com/forums/social-...unishment.html