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Old 07-09-2007   #61 (permalink)
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Re: Separation of Church and State

If it helps I posted the entirety of the Danbury Baptist's letter and Jefferson's reply in the 15th post of this thread. The primary concern of the Danbury Baptists was the lack of any constitutional protection prohibiting the States from making state laws respecting an establishment of religion. Jefferson explained that he understood but his hands were tied since he had only the powers authorized by Congress and Congress was inhibited from religious acts by the 1st amendment.

This was prior to the fourteenth amendment which would later be interpreted as extending the Bill of Rights of the people to the States thus preventing the States from passing laws that interferred with the rights of the citizens guaranteed by the Constitution.

One must remember that the government of Connecticut and it's Fundemental Orders were drafted by the Puritans which saw no difference between church and state. Their government was born of their religious belief and created just to protect their own religious convictions.


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Read my silence to mean that I am a full employee, full time student, full time husband, full time parent with more important things to do than amuse you by jumping through the hoops you hold up for me. I will get to this in good time, or perhaps instead of arrogantly baiting for answers you could supply the information in question and move the conversation forward.
The "degrading acknowledgments" were the certificates the Baptist had to execute and file to be exempt from the tithe imposed under Certificate Law of October 1791.

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I stand by my remark that the Baptists were concerned about a political movement to create a state religion..
Have you been polluting your mind with the crap written by David Barton?

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Jefferson, in his "Eternal Hostility Letter" to Ben Rush, may have been referring to an attempt to establish a national religion. However, the Baptists didn't mention it in their letter. I know of no other reference to the supposed attempt to set up a national religion. But, I have no doubt that there were those who would have supported such an establishment. New England was full of Satan Worshiping Calvinists.

Don't make the mistake of reading the Baptists' reference, in their letter to Jefferson, to "our ancient constitution" to be a reference to the U. S. Constitution. The "ancient constitution" is the Connecticut Charter of 1626. In 1801, the U. S. Constitution was only 13 years old.
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…our constitution cites "one nation under God."


--Karen Hughes (George Bush’s former idiot of a press secretary)

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…our constitution cites "one nation under God."


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What a dumbass. The word "God" appears nowhere in the U.S. Constitution.


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What a dumbass. The word "God" appears nowhere in the U.S. Constitution.
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