Science Forums
Advanced search
User Name
Password

Science Social Network
home    members    help/rules    who is online    contact   

Go Back   Science Forums > Social Sciences Forums > Political sciences
Become a science forums sponsor today
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 06-06-2006   #11 (permalink)
HydrogenBond's Avatar
Creating


 



Re: Sexually Transmitted Disease

Consider if humans were dumb animals and knew little about disease. The affects of STD's would thin the herd, starting with those with the most unnatural sexual orientations and behaviors. It is cause and affect. Mother nature is attempting to restore balance, with natural behavior not really affected as much by the plague. Because we are smart animals, we can continue the unnatural orientations and behaviors, because someone bails us out.

A good analogy is putting one's hand in the fire. After one attempt, even most pea brains will figure out cause and affect. Culture twists it around and blames the fire for being hot and treats the pea brained as victims of the fire, even though they constantly sticking their hand in the flame. Behavior has nothing to do with STD, it is the disease's fault. From the point of view of economic prosperity, it is good to have a lot of pea brains who are unable to think in terms of cause and affect; one will always have a large market for treatment and drugs.

Here is a scenario; stop all STD drugs and see what happens. We will no longer heal people who stick their hand in the flame, but will tell them the flame is hot and will burn you. One needs to accept responsiblity for their actions and live with the consequences. Does anyone have an opinion as to what the final group of survivers would comprise?
Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2006   #12 (permalink)
Mercedes Benzene's Avatar
Student

Hypography Staff Member
Moderator
Editor

 



Re: Sexually Transmitted Disease

Quote:
Here is a scenario; stop all STD drugs and see what happens. We will no longer heal people who stick their hand in the flame, but will tell them the flame is hot and will burn you.
Unfortunately there are too many people who "enjoy" drugs too much...
That makes me sad.


----------------
Moderator -- Chemistry, Biology, Watercooler, Competitions, Architecture.

Join our Facebook group
Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2006   #13 (permalink)
CraigD's Avatar
Creating

Hypography Staff Member
Administrator
Editor

 



Thumbs down The ethics of withholding treatment

Quote:
Originally Posted by InfiniteNow
Seriously Rac... the herd does need a bit of thinning. I don't want to be the one who gets thinned, nor those with whom I associate. However, from an academic and more abstract level, we need slow down the populational expansion.
Quote:
Originally Posted by HydrogenBond
…Here is a scenario; stop all STD drugs and see what happens.
To my thinking, though thought-provoking, such ideas are ultimately impractical.

What they amount to is that people in my profession – health care – would be required to withhold simple, cost-effective treatment in such a way as to directly contribute to patients’ physical, social, and reproductive debilitation, and, in many cases, preventable death. To most health care provider, such scenarios are offensive in the extreme. Unless nearly the entire profession is systematically suppressed, exiled, and/or exterminated, (such as actually happened in Cambodia in the 1970s, when as many as 5,000,000 or 40% of the population, including nearly 100% of trained, western medical staff, were killed) it is nearly inconceivable to me that such a scenario could occur.


----------------
Moderator: Computers and Technology; Medical Science; Science Projects and Homework; Philosophy of Science; Physics and Mathematics; Environmental Studies
Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2006   #14 (permalink)
TheBigDog's Avatar
Doing the Impossible

Hypography Staff Member
Moderator
Gallery Curator

 



Re: Sexually Transmitted Disease

Quote:
Originally Posted by Racoon
I think this sex obsessed culture is wrong...

There are too many dangers.. besides child support payments.

There is too much nasty shite going on!
If I post some pic's, you will ralph up your lunch....

It's OK to be abstinate...especially when there are Infectors out there

How to avoid Sex Transmitted Disease!??
I am making some popcorn, now where are the pictures!?!

Bill


----------------
aka TheBigDog - Hypography Full Freaking Moderator
Become a Hypography sponsor!
The truth is incontravertible; malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end there it is. - Winston Churchill

TheBigDog's recommended reading: The Science of Success - Charles G. Koch

A neutron goes into a bar and asks the bartender, "How much for a beer?"
The bartender replies, "For you, no charge."
Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2006   #15 (permalink)
Edella's Avatar
Questioning


 



Re: Sexually Transmitted Disease

Quote:
Originally Posted by HydrogenBond

Here is a scenario; stop all STD drugs and see what happens. We will no longer heal people who stick their hand in the flame, but will tell them the flame is hot and will burn you. One needs to accept responsiblity for their actions and live with the consequences.
This is a very extreme idea HydrogenBond.With out a doubt, education is key,and people do need to accept responsiblity for their actions and live with the consequences.But how about a woman who is raped and contracts an STD?Certainly an exception.

How about other irresponsible behaviors:
Smoking- Surely smokers know the risk;stop all treatment for tobacco related health problems.
Drinking-Even moderate drinking can be bad for ones health;stop all treatment.
Over eating-Obesity is one of the biggest(and costliest)health issues in America today.

You get the idea,I could go on but the point is that no longer helping heal people"who stick their hand in the flame" would have an effect on many, not just
those with STDs.

Quote:
The affects of STD's would thin the herd, starting with those with the most unnatural sexual orientations and behaviors.
I imagine early humans were affected by STDs.It didn't seem to rid us of "unnatural sexual orientations and behaviors." Those who have the most sex with the most partners would be the most likely to contract an STD. Promiscuity is not unnatural.Not sure why STDs would weed out unnatural sexual orientations and behaviors.

Medical examinations for you and your partner(s)and proper use of contraceptives is how to control STDs.Abstinence is of couse the only surefire way to completely avoid STDs.Whether that teaching method is working for our young ones is an issue for another thread.
Quote:
Does anyone have an opinion as to what the final group of survivers would comprise?
A Utopian society with rainbows and bunnies and no more bad things ever again?


----------------
place clever observation here

Last edited by Edella; 06-06-2006 at 09:36 PM.
Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2006   #16 (permalink)
Michaelangelica's Avatar
Creating


 



Smile Re: Sexually Transmitted Disease

Quote:
Originally Posted by HydrogenBond
One needs to accept responsiblity for their actions and live with the consequences. Does anyone have an opinion as to what the final group of survivers would comprise?
What's un-natural about sex?

Darwinian determinism?

Malthus re-invented?
Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2006   #17 (permalink)
bpjg2fat's Avatar
Thinking


 



Cool Re: Sexually Transmitted Disease

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mercedes Benzene
...there are too many people who "enjoy" drugs too much...
Agreed.


----------------
Bill Clinton does not inhale marijuana, right? You bet. Like I chew on LSD but I don't swallow it.'" -Hunter S. Thomspon
Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2006   #18 (permalink)
Racoon's Avatar
Politically Incorrect

Silver Subscription
Sponsor

 



Re: Sexually Transmitted Disease

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBigDog
I am making some popcorn, now where are the pictures!?!

Bill
How do I post them? I tried??
I got plenty...

I did the [img]www.addyouraddyhere.com[/img]

?


----------------
There is Truth in Wine and Children
Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2006   #19 (permalink)
HappytheStripper's Avatar
Thinking


 



Re: Sexually Transmitted Disease

Quote:
Originally Posted by Racoon
How do I post them? I tried??
I got plenty...

I did the [img]www.addyouraddyhere.com[/img]

?
To post an image go to photobucket.com and upload ur pic .. cut the IMG tag and post it here .. to post a URL use the URL tags up above and


Last edited by HappytheStripper; 06-07-2006 at 12:33 PM.
Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2006   #20 (permalink)
TheFaithfulStone's Avatar
Rockin'


 



Re: Sexually Transmitted Disease

Quote:
Originally Posted by HydrogenBond
Here is a scenario; stop all STD drugs and see what happens. We will no longer heal people who stick their hand in the flame, but will tell them the flame is hot and will burn you. One needs to accept responsiblity for their actions and live with the consequences. Does anyone have an opinion as to what the final group of survivers would comprise?
Stop reading Ayn Rand! Stop it! Bad HydrogenBond!

That's a step shy of euthanizing retarded kids and the handicapped. Are they next?

TFS


----------------
There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
The power of sacred water to cure disease and relieving the sins dattaswami Theology forum 8 06-29-2006 06:18 AM
Chron's Disease Etiology jkellmd Medical Science 1 02-24-2006 07:35 PM
Flipped Genetic Sequences Illuminate Human Evolution And Disease C1ay General Science News 0 10-31-2005 04:37 AM
The psychological component of disease tarak Medical Science 3 03-16-2005 10:30 AM
Lyme disease IrishEyes Medical Science 5 01-25-2005 07:28 AM


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:53 PM.

Hypography?

Hypography [n.]: A combination of "hyperlink" and "bibliography" - ie, a list of links to electronic documents. Comparable to discography and bibliography, but not cartography.

We have been online since May 2000, and aim to be the best place to find and share science-related content of all kinds.

Share the love!

Please add more science to your life. Use our RSS feeds on your blog, your portal, or your favorite feedreader!

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.2.0 ©2008, Crawlability, Inc. Copyright © 2000-2008 Hypography
Part of the Hypography - Science for Everyone Network