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| Doing the Impossible | Theocratic United States? I have seen in a number of threads an assertion such as illustrated below... Quote:
I would first like to open the floor to those who believe the notion to be true so I can get an idea as to what lead them to that conclusion. Thanks Bill ---------------- aka TheBigDog - Hypography Full Freaking Moderator Become a Hypography sponsor! The truth is incontravertible; malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end there it is. - Winston Churchill TheBigDog's recommended reading: The Science of Success - Charles G. Koch A neutron goes into a bar and asks the bartender, "How much for a beer?" The bartender replies, "For you, no charge." | ||
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| ¿42? | Re: Theocratic United States? I must say, when Bush was sworn in the second time and Justice Rehnquist amended the Constitutional Oath at the end with the phrase "so help me God", I was offended. Bush has shown a number of religious biases in his own actions and decisions that make me uncomfortable. ---------------- Clay Editor and Forum Administrator stego anyone? Add yourself to Hypography's Frappr. "There are only 10 kinds of people in the world -- .....Those who understand binary, and those who don't." "Draw no conclusions before their time." | |
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| bike | Re: Theocratic United States? That makes you uncomfortable? I too, have beared witness to that mans religious bias ever since what, the millenium? I don't think the average joe who sees the prez on television puts two and two together, they just see his hand on the bible, and assume he's a man of god. awww, a good guy! ---------------- "Rome falls nine times an hour" ![]() ![]() | |
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| Doing the Impossible | Re: Theocratic United States? Quote:
"I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same: that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion, and I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God." And all congress members take this oath... "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God." And all supreme court justices take this oath... "I, [NAME], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will administer justice without respect to persons, and do equal right to the poor and to the rich, and that I will faithfully and impartially discharge and perform all the duties incumbent upon me as [TITLE] under the Constitution and laws of the United States. So help me God.'' Are those traditional oaths offensive and the work of an administration bent on creating a theocracy? Bill ---------------- aka TheBigDog - Hypography Full Freaking Moderator Become a Hypography sponsor! The truth is incontravertible; malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end there it is. - Winston Churchill TheBigDog's recommended reading: The Science of Success - Charles G. Koch A neutron goes into a bar and asks the bartender, "How much for a beer?" The bartender replies, "For you, no charge." | ||
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| Rockin' | Re: Theocratic United States? I for one am not particularly worried about George W. Bush turning the United States into a theocracy. Because I don't think Karl Rove would let him. Once conservatives have solved all of their social agenda issues, their alliance largely evaporates. If we lived in a world without abortions, gay people, blacks, or atheists, how long until the conservative alliance evaporated and people started voting on other issues? They don't want to these things to happen, which is the dirty secret of the Republican machine. On the bright side, though, I don't think Bush and Rover are particularly interested in creating a theocracy. What worries me more than them, is "opinion makers" who really, really are. Tim LaHaye for instance, author of the Left Behind books has been repeatedly associated with Christian Dominionism. The extreme form of Dominionism is Christian Reconstructionism, which aims for nothing less than an Iranian style "Christian Revolution." Frankly, this form of extremism is pretty rare, and is best exemplified by crazies like RJ Rushdoony. Dominionism is sorta like what they have in places like Saudi Arabia, or even Iraq, where Islam informs to a great extent political decisions. Reconstuctionism is the white version of the Taliban, and they are, to mind essentially the same thing. If they had power they would be just as dangerous. Honestly I think a lot of people just don't find the idea of Dominionism that frightening, because something like 85% of the United States is Christian. But in any case, while Dominionism is a fairly common viewpoint among Religious conservatives (that is, that Biblical (which I use with some hestitation) / theological concerns should weigh heavily on public and political decisions, the actual advocacy of an establishment of a theocracy is a pretty rare viewpoint. I worry about Dominionism, not because I'm not a Christian, but because I think that the people who are generally hocking it don't realize the depth of compatibility between Christianity (as Jesus, not Pat Robertson, or the Scofield Reference Bible taught it) and Liberalism. Remember guys, the first rule isn't "don't sin" it's "Love thy neighbor." TFS edited to remove gratuitous use of the word "frankly" ---------------- There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots. Last edited by TheFaithfulStone; 07-30-2006 at 12:13 PM. | |
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---------------- Who doesn't want to use words that will stun people into silence? ~ShaYou gonna eat that? | ||
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In spite of what people claim, most of our founding fathers weren't Christians, but Deists. How many politicians can dance on the head of a pin? ---------------- Who doesn't want to use words that will stun people into silence? ~ShaYou gonna eat that? | ||
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| Rockin' | Re: Theocratic United States? Quote:
I'll have to look up the passage, but I think it goes something "Teacher what is the most important law?" - "Love thy neighbor as thyself." TFS ---------------- There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots. | ||
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| ¿42? | Re: Theocratic United States? Quote:
---------------- Clay Editor and Forum Administrator stego anyone? Add yourself to Hypography's Frappr. "There are only 10 kinds of people in the world -- .....Those who understand binary, and those who don't." "Draw no conclusions before their time." | ||
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| Understanding | Re: Theocratic United States? Quote:
Matthew 22:36 "Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?" 37 And he said to him, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul, and with all your mind.38 This is the great and first commandment. 39 And a second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. 40 On these two commandments depends all the law and the prophets." ---------------- "Those who forget to remember the past are condemned to repeat it", George Santayana | ||
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