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Sadly, I think that I have Aspergers tendencies, if not the whole thing as I got my twenty year spate of migraines through sheer anger at getting interrupted at a task I was fixated on (Still am).


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I'm a 35.
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I've noticed that there is a causal chain with my migraines (Panic attack, temper tantrum, chemical/ hormonal imbalance, migraine attack). As I probably have Aspergers Syndrome (at least in my estimation and from most tests results I've completed on the subject), do the two go together as I know the first two items in my Migraine chain are common to the autistic?

By the way, the task that I'm fixated on as mentioned in previous post on this thread, is a series of books teaching English. Tell me if I'm wrong but the reason the idea isn't selling is because of the Geeky angle it's coming from because of my condition? (Preview samples of Logic Lists English by Tony Sandy at Lulu.com, under Education and Language section in 'Buy' area). It looks like it's been written by a computer and the only honest comment I've had so far is that it is "Just rows of words". Anyway see what you think - is this Aspie Typical rather than Neuro Typical (Term used by Aspergers to distinguish them from ordinary human beings).

It also seems what is diagnosed as hyperlexic in America (fascinated with words) and this not only explains why I can't let go of language as a subject but the format of the books (I was told on one of the Hyperlexic sites I visited that Dyslexia is the polar opposite of the former condition, so I thought that would lead to progress in promotion of my books - you guessed it, still nil sales!).


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I've noticed that there is a causal chain with my migraines (Panic attack, temper tantrum, chemical/ hormonal imbalance, migraine attack). As I probably have Aspergers Syndrome (at least in my estimation and from most tests results I've completed on the subject), do the two go together as I know the first two items in my Migraine chain are common to the autistic?

By the way, the task that I'm fixated on as mentioned in previous post on this thread, is a series of books teaching English. Tell me if I'm wrong but the reason the idea isn't selling is because of the Geeky angle it's coming from because of my condition? (Preview samples of Logic Lists English by Tony Sandy at Lulu.com, under Education and Language section in 'Buy' area). It looks like it's been written by a computer and the only honest comment I've had so far is that it is "Just rows of words". Anyway see what you think - is this Aspie Typical rather than Neuro Typical (Term used by Aspergers to distinguish them from ordinary human beings).

It also seems what is diagnosed as hyperlexic in America (fascinated with words) and this not only explains why I can't let go of language as a subject but the format of the books (I was told on one of the Hyperlexic sites I visited that Dyslexia is the polar opposite of the former condition, so I thought that would lead to progress in promotion of my books - you guessed it, still nil sales!).
1 migraines
are fascinating. A lot of highly intelligent, creative people have them. I have "painless migraines" took 50 years to diagnose that.
Sacks has written a book about it. He too has migraine problems.

To answer the question "?" who knows??

Please see also my discussion on feverfew 9somewhere here) a herb that contains some "aspirin" type compounds which suggests a link between gut and brain

2.I think you would expect some Asperger's type personalities her on hypography.
Is that the case with all science?

3 Asperger's seems more prevalent in males (?) Why?
Evolutionarily what are the ++'s ?
An ability to focus on the kill??


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Aspie/N-Typ
59/163 out of 200

I am very likely Neuro-Typical
I just took it and got 121/94 out of 200 (ea.).
Quite high...


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Cool, Freeztar....
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Please see also my discussion on feverfew 9somewhere here) a herb that contains some "aspirin" type compounds which suggests a link between gut and brain

2.I think you would expect some Asperger's type personalities her on hypography.
Is that the case with all science?

3 Asperger's seems more prevalent in males (?) Why?
Evolutionarily what are the ++'s ?
An ability to focus on the kill??
#2. Yes, I think so. Both for science research, and for the science fora. I think both scientist and writer are "job types" suggested as appropriate or typical of Aspies.

#3. I haven't thought about the gender differences, but in general I've been wondering if there might naturally be different brain types (based on one or more parameters); types which easily could be just opposite ends of a spectrum.
Perhaps....
Observers/Thinkers vs. Actors/Doers

In terms of evolution (as you mention- hunting, etc.); by living as a "domesticated" species these days, as well as the tremendous heterogeneous, inter-regional, genetic exchange over the past few hundred years (5-10 generations); I'd think humanity could be experiencing a small burst of diversity in brain evolution.
...especially given epigenetic considerations!


....also re: "....which suggests a link between gut and brain."
Have you heard of the wheat/wheat gluten & Autism/Asp. connection?
ANDI | Autism Network for Dietary Intervention | Home of ANDI Bars
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Celiac Disease & Kids by Danna Korn
We also welcome friends and family of kids who are on the gluten-free/casein-free diet as part of a dietary intervention protocol for autism, Asperger's Syndrome, ADD and ADHD.

....also see: "The Second Brain" Dr. Michael Gershon
Psychology Today: Our Second Brain: The Stomach
...or at Amazon.com

...and epigenetics lends so much more potential to these tangentially related topics.
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We need to look a lot more at this somach/brain thing
This was a fascinating little talk today.
It appears drug companies are already targeting it.
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eremy Nicholson: The average person has about one and a half kilograms of gut microbes, so that has a big influence on your body, and if you totalled up the number it's something like a hundred trillion microbes inside you.
And you only have about ten trillion cells in the whole of your body, so they sort of outnumber us ten to one in terms of the number of cells. So they have a big effect on our biology, and also our health.
They're extremely difficult to culture by conventional techniques, so it's only in the last maybe five to ten years that we've really known about their diversity and how to study them.
. . .
For example, people who are born by caesarean section have a different microflora from natural births
. . .
Jeremy Nicholson: There are a lot of diseases that have occurred that have increased in the last 30, 40, 50 years; diabetes, obesity, some sorts of cancers, even neuropsychiatric disorders.
What we know now is the causes of those are not just in our own genome, although some of our own genetics is involved, but it's the interaction with the environment.
And it turns out that in almost all of those cases there are unusual interactions with the gut microbes


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If you use the psychology of Carl Jung, but modernized into computer lingo, both males and females have layers of personality software. This is what makes humans a characteristic species. The personality software of a cat is different.

According to Jung there are three levels of male and female software. These layers are sort of staggered to allow cross programming. Male-male or female-female interaction more or less reinforces the same software layering. Male-female interaction makes more use of cross programming dynamics creating a higher level of unpredictability. In other words, male and females can't totally figure out or control each other since the base software is different. But through cross programming, they create a layer that is able to relate. If we could use only this cross layer, there would be little differences between the sexes. But the original layers remain creating differences that will persist.

Relative to the male and female software, the base layer is connected to the instincts and capabilities of the body. The male software is masculine and the female software is feminine. This software is connected to the different design parameters of the male or female body. The second level, according to Jung, is cross gender. This is the female side of a male and the male side of a female. The masculine woman and feminine male is a good example of this software in action. This first two levels can cross program with the female side of the male cross programming the lower level software of the female. And the masculine side of the female cross programming the lowest level in the male. For example, romance begins with the emotions within a male, such as love or infatuation. The activities that emerge is what gets the female body in the mood for love.

The third level returns to direct sexual configuration. The male software is connected to meaning and the female connected to relationship. This software is less connected to learned behavior but is more fluid and can work on the fly. This third level software in the males is responsible for innovation. The disproportionate amount of male innovation is due to this software. The female version gives women an instinctive ability to relate at a wide range of levels from babies, children, strangers, elderly, socially, culturally.

Relative to Asperger's Syndrome, in the ideal world, the highest level female software of relationship should be what is cross programming the middle level or female side of the male. It is the natural expert. While the highest level software of the male should be what is cross programming the middle level in the female. The latter sort of happens through ideas and innovation filtering into culture, which can be learned by reading. But the former require human interaction. The masculinization of females implies females are spending more time at the middle level, sort of limiting the amount of highest level of cross programming. Some middle level male software never reaches version 2.0 due to the lack of good cross programming. It is sort of analogous to women not being allowed to read and keep up. The first and third level software in the male may function properly, but the middle level can develop software glitches, which can overly attach or even detach the person with respect to human, idea or object relationship.

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Some links on the subject
Mostly more severe manifestations of it.
A pity copy and paste links don't come when you paste into Hypography
here is the main link to all these.

The Health Library —Mental Health and Behavior

Asperger Syndrome
Asperger Syndrome Fact Sheet:NINDS
Asperger Syndrome Fact Sheet: National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke (NINDS)
Asperger Syndrome:NICHD
Asperger's Syndrome:Autism Speaks
Asperger's Disorder:ASA
NICHCY Connections... to Aperger Syndrome:NICHCY
Asperger's Syndrome:MedlinePlus

Some more if you are doing a master's on it!
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What is Asperger Syndrome?

* The plain diagnostic criteria for AS.
Diagnostic Criteria for Asperger's Disorder, IRCA Articles, Access Autism
Without explanation or elaboration, here's the criteria for AS from the DSM-IV-TR.

* Contrast the DSM criteria for Asperger Syndrome with the other PDD disorders.
Disability Info: Pervasive Developmental Disorders (FS20)
We offer a briefing paper on PDD that includes an overview to the umbrella category under which mental health professionals have placed Asperger Syndrome. This includes the DSM criteria that are used to diagnose the syndrome. You may also find it helpful to see these criteria contrasted with those used to diagnose the four other disorders under the PDD umbrella.

* Visit OASIS.
Asperger Syndrome OASIS
OASIS stands for Online Asperger Syndrome Information and Support. This group offers "What is AS?" at the link above. Part of that online article is the diagnostic criteria for Asperger Syndrome, taken directly from the DSM.

* All about autism, Asperger Syndrome, and related developmental disorders.
http://www.maapservices.org/MAAP_Sub..._Aspergers.htm
Read all about it at MAAP Services for the Autism and Asperger Syndrome, a nonprofit organization providing information and advice to families of More advanced individuals with Autism, Asperger's syndrome, and Pervasive developmental disorder (PDD).

* Asperger's Syndrome.
Asperger's Syndrome
At this page of the Yale Child Study Center, you can pick up two lengthy publications focused on Asperger Syndrome, specifically Guidelines for Assessment and Diagnosis and Guidelines for Treatment and Intervention.

* What are the warning signs for Asperger Syndrome? Visit First Signs.
Developmental disability, early intervention, developmental delays, autism screening and early intervention autism : First Signs
First Signs, Inc. is a national non-profit organization dedicated to educating parents and physicians about the early warning signs of autism and other developmental disorders.

* What the Autism Society of America has to say about Aspergers.
Autism Society of America: Page Not Found

* Want to know more about the DSM-VI-TR, and how it was compiled?
DSM® Library
Visit the American Psychiatric Association's DSM-IV-TR Library, located at the link above.


* Is there a difference between Asperger and high functioning autism?
Tony Attwood
Tony Attwood is a guru in the Asperger field and offers several commercially available books on the subject (available through amazon.com). He generously makes a number of useful articles online, including but certainly not limited to:

o The Profile of Friendship Skills in Asperger’s Syndrome

o A Cognitive Behaviour Therapy Intervention for Anxiety in Children with Asperger's Syndrome

o Asperger's Syndrome and Adults. Is Anyone Listening? (Essays and poems by partrners, parents, and family members of adults with AS, collected by Karen E. Rodman)

o Strategies for Improving the Social Integration of Children with Asperger's Syndrome

o Why does Chris do that? Some suggestions regarding the cause and management of the unusual behaviour of children and adults with autism and Asperger's Syndrome.

* Here's another "read all about it" site full of info.
AutismWeb: The Parent's Guide to Autism and PDD
Billed as "a parents' guide to the diagnosis, treatment and education of children with autism, Pervasive Developmental Disorder ( PDD ) and related disorders," AutismWeb branches into separate areas about the definitions of each autism spectrum disorder, warning signs, education, diet, recommended readings, news, conferences, and how to find resources within your community.

* Adults with AS.
Autism Society of America: Page Not Found
Online courtesy of the Autism Society of America, this article talks about transition issues, such as postsecondary education, employment, and living arrangements.
NICHCY Web Resource Page: NICHCY Connections...to Asperger Syndrome


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