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Fate vs. Freewill

In your opinion, do you believe believe in destiny, freewill, or both?
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Freewill. There would be no reason to live if not for freewill (imho).


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Does having the choice to do what you want negate the possbility that you were destined to make that choice? And even if it your choices are fated, would that make them any less important? If it was fate then it would actually be more important because an entire future is dependant on what occurs before it.
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Re: Fate vs. Freewill

This is one of my favorite philosophies.
I think that free will didn't exist until we were able to think about our own thoughts.
Even now, as I choose which words to type, it was an inevitability all along.
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It's as if free will comes with awareness.
It's probably just an illusion,
but what isn't?


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Re: Fate vs. Freewill

If you were destined to make a certain choice, then you really never had the choice. You may have the illusion of choice, but there never was a true choice.

While the choice is still important, the individual becomes meaningless. And that, I refuse to believe. I am significant and I can make a difference.

And yes Orb, I agree this is a very fun topic


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But every choice you make is determined by the experiences that occured before that choice. The choice you make is carefully calculated using different variables, and is done so consciously and sub-consciously. No choice is created independently from your experiences and the way you process theses occurances. Cause and effect.
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ah the big one........fate vs freewill!
fate is a little harder for me so ill start with freewill.
what is freewill?the ability to make decisions, choose courses of action, specify a preference?
we all live within and ethnocentric mindset. this directly affects our own freewill. its our choice to walk to work not drive?its our choice to have a 'holiday' and pick its destination(of course being subject to our financial situation). can you see a picture forming?do we really have a choice to work or not, we all need money. we've all "chosen" this materialistic modern western world, yeah?
dont get me wrong freewill seems like a great idea i just sometimes wonder if its just a concept to keep the masses thinking that their making all the real decisions in their life .
is it me or does that sound cynical?
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If its fate, I'd still prefer to live a life thinking it was free will...

Fate happens for most people due to their continual pattern of free will choces.


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