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Old 05-12-2009   #11 (permalink)
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Money Dannie, money is basically responsible for tobacco being off limits to review. Only in recent years has tobacco been reveled as the demon it really is but not so many years ago the actually claimed the smoking relived coughing. the US government often requires that third world countries allow duty free or much favored importation of American tobacco (I live in the tobacco belt). It's really sad but it makes the US government the largest drug dealer in the world. As for alcohol, it has been used since time unknown, some say bread making was an offshoot of beer making so it is ingrained in human society at a very basic level.


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Money Dannie, money is basically responsible for tobacco being off limits to review. Only in recent years has tobacco been reveled as the demon it really is but not so many years ago the actually claimed the smoking relived coughing. the US government often requires that third world countries allow duty free or much favored importation of American tobacco (I live in the tobacco belt). It's really sad but it makes the US government the largest drug dealer in the world. As for alcohol, it has been used since time unknown, some say bread making was an offshoot of beer making so it is ingrained in human society at a very basic level.
Marijuana has been a HUGE part of society for a very, very long time, possibly close to the amount of time we've been 'drinking'.

Government corruption is fuelled by money; I wonder if utopia would be a moneyless society.
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yes, MJ has been associated with humans a long time, I've read it might very well have been the first domesticated plant due to it's fibers seeds and hallucinogenic properties but it was mostly in the far east. Western societies, especially the Judeo Christian world was very suspicious of anything from that part of the world labeling it paganistic or demonic. the two worlds mixed a few times but smoking didn't really catch on in the western world until tobacco ws introduced for reasons i am unaware of.


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One component of the banning or regulation of substances has been prejudice. It is utterly common that the progression of legislation has followed demonizing and propaganda largely about a perceived race or social class. There are numerous books and movies not to mention the legal records themselves that document how Harry Anslinger, for example, was at first perplexed at how he was going to manage to enforce outlawing a weed, one that grew wild in the US Capital at the time, but later warmed to it as it became popular and brought him unprecedented power. It was seen as a menace when journalists played up blacks and mexicans as crazed "hop head" fiends out to rape and defile white women. IIRC William Randolph Hearst, was a major mover in this debacle.

Now such propaganda appears ludicrous and "Reefer Madness" and such appears at festivals and on cable as comedy when once it was seen as true and diabolical horror. Slightly off topic but nevertheless similar and pertinent is that erotica was outlawed in western civilization primarily from the pressure of "decent gentlemen" of Victoria's England who, while believing they were immune, were either actually concerned that the great unwashed could be driven to rape of gentile ladies or saw it as a politically hot issue and couldn't resist ringing the Pavlovian Bell.

Racism and Class Arrogance is often behind victimless crime legislation of all kinds as is political motivations when it is seen that large numbers will "salivate". Thus it is OK to own an assault rifle and ammo, or an automobile, but the right kind of weed or flower will get you a jail sentance.
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Well the illegality isn't really the point; I realise that illegal drugs aren't necessarily more harmful than legal drugs.

I'm just looking for evidence to back this up.
Here is all the evidence you will ever need:

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