Gay-to-straight therapy repudiated

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Originally Posted by Larv

There may be hope for gay babies. A cure for homosexuality may be possible with a hypothalamus transplant. This method would be especially equitable, since it could also cure heterosexuality.

Originally Posted by Larv

Speculatively, a hypothalamic transplant on humans is not unthinkable. Such transplants have been done on rats to see how their gonadotropic hormones are affected (from the cited article):


But this might not apply only gay-to-straight therapy; it could also be used for straight-to-gay therapy. I can imagine whole flocks of heterosexual men lining up for the cure.

Hey, it works for hearts, lungs, livers, and kidneys. Why couldn't it work for hypothalamuses, too?

In the words of Christopher Hitchens “There are no statements worth arguing here. All you can do is underline them."

Larv imagines a world where people who are different line up to have their brain carved, dissected, and reassembled into a different sexual orientation. I can only underline this and stress that it is no joke. Psycologists have tied down unwilling gay teenagers and subjected them to electroshock therapy. It happened to Lou Reed. He talked about it in an interview:

Originally Posted by Lou Reed

They put the thing down your throat so you don't swallow your tongue, and they put electrodes on your head. That's what was recommended in Rockland County to discourage homosexual feelings. The effect is that you lose your memory and become a vegetable. You can't read a book because you get to page seventeen and have to go right back to page one again

Most people hear this kind of thing and think "how horrific", yet people in this thread are describing it with glee. Electroshock isn't enough—let's cut out and replace part of their brain!

It must be a generational thing. In fact, it is a generational thing:

Source

I've never thought to myself "let's kill this Jew because of the circumstance of his birth". I've never thought "let's lynch this black guy because of how he was born". And, it just wouldn't occur to me to shock a gay person into being straight or to cut out part of their brain until they are straight. It must be generational, because nothing I know and nothing I have ever seen or learned in this world makes me "imagine" such a thing.

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Treatmentshomosexuality

Treatments to change a person's sexuality are unethical and may be damaging. This is because we have known for many years that homosexuality is not a disorder. Nor is there any evidence that any such "treatments" are effective. If you listen to the BBC debate with Dr Jospeh Nicolosi (NARTH) on our Interviews page you will hear the evidence (or lack of it) discussed. In fact, the American Psychiatric Association explicitly warns against so-called reparative therapy that attempts to make gay people straight. ...

BioMed Central | Full text | The response of mental health professionals to clients seeking help to change or redirect same-sex sexual orientation

Conclusion
A significant minority of mental health professionals are attempting to help lesbian, gay and bisexual clients to become heterosexual. Given lack of evidence for the efficacy of such treatments, this is likely to be unwise or even harmful. ...

maybe the bigots would be happier in iran where there are no gays.

[Moontanman]

Originally Posted by Larv

There may be hope for gay babies. A cure for homosexuality may be possible with a hypothalamus transplant. This method would be especially equitable, since it could also cure heterosexuality.

Do you think it might cure you larv?

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Since this thread can not manage to stay on-topic, it's being closed.