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  electrolysis of H2O
boltazar
Posted 07-10-2008
I'm looking for the best plate spacing of SS plates to produce Browns gas. I'm using 12 volts, would like to not go over 15 amps. Also could someone explain the use of neutral plates between + and- plates. Plate size of 2" X 8" in distilled water.

If my understanding is...
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By boltazar on 07-19-2008
Re: electrolysis of H2O

Well guys this ought to be very intresting. My Scan Gauge II will be here next week and I plan to install the generator in about 3 weeks. I'll post as much info as I can and anything you can think of that I should and can obtain. What do you say we keep an open mind and see what happens. Pete
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By boltazar on 07-23-2008
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I was just given this and thought one of you guys might explain what the gas is their referring to that's made between the plates. Thanks


Well I had a link that I would have liked explained but couldn't post it, newbie

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Eagle-Research NEWest News about Brown's Gas
Last edited by freeztar; 07-24-2008 at 05:14 PM.
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By freeztar on 07-23-2008
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Well I had a link that I would have liked explained but couldn't post it, newbie
You can post links only after 10 posts. I'll happily post your link for you if you send me a PM.
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By modest on 08-06-2008
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I was just given this and thought one of you guys might explain what the gas is their referring to that's made between the plates. Thanks


Well I had a link that I would have liked explained but couldn't post it, newbie

MOD EDIT: Link added

Eagle-Research NEWest News about Brown's Gas
Hello boltazar, sorry for the belated response. I have no idea what the fella in your link is talking about - he appears to be confused about what he's producing yet unable to take simple steps toward clarifying. For instance, he says he's producing three gases - entirely possible... which burn? Which make the water acidic and which basic? Rather than taking simple steps like this to find out what's going on he rather writes a few thousand word blog

In any case, did you get your generator? If you did, I'm very curious what the flow rate is. Do you think it possible to evacuate a 2 liter or gallon container and time how long it takes? I could do calculations with that toward how much energy it is giving your car engine.

~modest
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By boltazar on 09-06-2008
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Havent forgotten about all you guys. HHO production is in the works, I'll post more when were done. Good or Bad, I promise. Oh were using graphite electrodes, water,30 to 166 amps, PWModulation and oxygen sensor adjusters for cars and trucks.
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By alexander on 09-09-2008
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Lets start with generation of gas. You say that at 10-12 volts, it requires 30-166 amps. That is a TON of current, 10 milliamps is enough to kill a human, sustained added load of 30+ amps on your alternator may be quite a hit if you have a smaller car; 60+ amp load on the alternator, is enough to decrease the life span of any alternator, 120+ amp load will get any car alternator overheating in no time, unless they were specifically designed to output the power, if you say disconnect your fridge, and dont run any ac and heating and seat functions and radio in the 760Li, you may be able to comfortably power such a contraption, but then again not every car comes with a water-cooled 150amp alternator.


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In any case, did you get your generator? If you did, I'm very curious what the flow rate is. Do you think it possible to evacuate a 2 liter or gallon container and time how long it takes? I could do calculations with that toward how much energy it is giving your car engine.
i'd love to confirm those too (you know me, i love running weird calculations, like figuring what kind of a 1/4 mile time a loan mower would have to do, in order to achieve an average of 1G/sec acceleration , or calculating pi to 10000 places for fun... or figuring out how much RDX would be needed to fake a nuclear test in North Korea)
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By Nitack on 09-09-2008
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I would like to add something to this discussion that is missing. As another HHO thread was discussed and researched we found that the key point to all of this is the oxygen sensor and messing with your engines chip that you alluded to. They basically have you adjust your engine to run very lean. This will damage your engine over time. The claim is that you have to run lean in order to inject the hydrogen for the reaction, however, you would get the same gas millage increase by running your engine lean with out hydrogen. Sure you save on your MPG, but as stated by some of the others, this whole process is basically damaging our engine in order to squeeze out a few extra MPH. Additionally, you will not be able to pass a emissions inspection in any state.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/auto...s/4271579.html
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By alexander on 09-09-2008
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it wont pass the under the hood look of any emissions test, yes.

I have a problem with this, many car makers make their cars lean to begin with, to pass emissions into the country. You are injecting a gas into the system to decrease the burning temp and increase the burn time in fuel, that draws even more power away from mostly power-starving engines...

As many people have said, you don't get something for nothing, you use gasoline to propell the engine, then take power away from it by running an alternator, to get electricity to split dhmo (dyhydrogen monoxide) into ohy (oxyhydrogen). It is one of the most stable bonds there is in nature, it takes the most energy to break, go back to drawing boards and figure out better ways of doing this first, then we talk about how to make cars make better use of this....
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By modest on 09-09-2008
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I would like to add something to this discussion that is missing. As another HHO thread was discussed and researched we found that the key point to all of this is the oxygen sensor and messing with your engines chip that you alluded to...
Good point. It's also probably the first time in years that some of these people have changed their air filter.

~modest
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By alexander on 09-10-2008
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Good point. It's also probably the first time in years that some of these people have changed their air filter.
changed? i wouldn't go that far, maybe just dusted it off or something
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