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Why do UFO's spin?
Looking at the various reports and films of flying saucers, the question arises in my mind, why do...
Last edited by paigetheoracle; 04-06-2009 at 08:26 AM..
Reason: Acknowledgement that it's some, not all UFO's that spin
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Re: Why do UFO's spin?
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Obviously the majority of people replying to this thread have little or no interest in the subject and haven't studied the subject in any depth. With this in mind I suggest you all go and immerse yourself in H2O, to discover the truth behind USV's (Unidentified Submersible Vehicles)*
* In other words go and stick your head in a bucket! 
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Be nice Paige, I happen to be very interested in UFOs but making the assumption they all spin or even that some of them spin is not very accurate. Spinning is a trait associated with only a small number of craft. Even the disk shape is not part of all or even most sightings. Many are cigar shaped triangle shaped but most are random lights and glowing globe shapes that don't conform to the spinning disk at all.
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Re: Why do UFO's spin?
I saw one in cleveland....But it was just a realllly cool gas station (spinning lights and all)  looked alot like the ship from "the day the earth stood still")
Only saw one one other time but I'm pretty sure it doesn't count as I was drunk, messed up on some really good Red and a to remain unspecified hallucinogen.
Now I have seen plenty of U.S.V.'s. You see all sorts of bizzare things in the water here!
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I believe I put my information on the wrong blog I thought I was talking to people who had a open mind for knowledge but now I realize I am in a blog that love to put down their fellow person this is what you get a buzz out of you. I bid you a good day I will let you continue to talking to your selfs because this is the only person who will listen.
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I believe I put my information on the wrong blog I thought I was talking to people who had a open mind for knowledge but now I realize I am in a blog that love to put down their fellow person this is what you get a buzz out of you. I bid you a good day I will let you continue to talking to your selfs because this is the only person who will listen.
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If you were expecting everyone here to be true believers in UFOs you are correct. I have been following/studying UFOs most of my life. I have never seen one but I've seen some impressive photos and films made before photo shopping that really beg an explanation. I think i posed in another thread that at least on sighting was made by a crew of a B-52 bomber that carries "Death from Above" and their sighting was confirmed by ground witnesses, radar, another aircraft and by the crew of the bomber and it was seen for several minutes. If these guys were hallucinating then not only does the Air force have a problem that needs to be investigated the people on the ground have a few jars that have fallen off the shelf as well. But this sighting is still not proof of alien visitation just evidence of something really odd that should be investigated. So you will find few true believers here but I am sure you will find people with minds open enough to listen and critique any available evidence in an open way. Your sighting is very interesting but it rests on only your word, no corroborating witnesses, no photos, no radar reports, just your word. While I am sure you are a very truthful man, put yourself in others shoes. If I told you I had seen a unicorn would you immediately believe me or would you want some proof other than my word? (by the way I really have seen a unicorn, no one has asked for any evidence nor have they questioned me either, kind of disappointing really, but it's how it goes when you make odd claims)
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Re: Why do UFO's spin?
Wddycus - you make an interesting point about the Earth spinning, which I hadn't thought of as for the rest of the crew making fun of us experiencers - that's par for the course here I'm afraid and pretty much so for the rest of the world (See my other UFO thread that covers the subject of SEP's (Somebody Else's Problem) for why this might be). You might also like to look up Jenny Randles 'Oz factor' for high weirdness on this subject. Are UFO's real? You bet, we've seen them. Are the people in this forum real? Well I haven't seen any of them - have you?
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Re: Why do UFO's spin?
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Are UFO's real? You bet, we've seen them.
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Seeing something does not necessarily make it real. What looks like an oasis in the dessert may be a mirage.
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Are the people in this forum real? Well I haven't seen any of them - have you?
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I have. Furthermore, you could test to see if the people in this forum are real. You could get their addresses, go to their house, and talk with them. We can't say the same for UFOs.
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Re: Why do UFO's spin?
Moontanman and Paigetheoracle I want to thank ya ll for a honest and open statement from both of you that is all I ask for is for somebody just to have a honest conversation between people about all kinds of different sup jests and still be nice to each other even though we might not agree with each other.We could get so much done in this world if we just try and be nice for a change.If you have never seen a UFO you might be incline not believe but let me clear up something a UFO is that I could not identified the object in front of me that dose not mean it is from another world but I have never seen this before. I have never seen it again but in some UFO pictures I have saw. Thank You for given me this opportunity to tell you how I fell.
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Re: Why do UFO's spin?
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Originally Posted by wddycus
Moontanman and Paigetheoracle I want to thank ya ll for a honest and open statement from both of you that is all I ask for is for somebody just to have a honest conversation between people about all kinds of different sup jests and still be nice to each other even though we might not agree with each other.We could get so much done in this world if we just try and be nice for a change.If you have never seen a UFO you might be incline not believe but let me clear up something a UFO is that I could not identified the object in front of me that dose not mean it is from another world but I have never seen this before. I have never seen it again but in some UFO pictures I have saw. Thank You for given me this opportunity to tell you how I fell.
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Thanks wddycus, I am a strange type of skeptic, I would love to see aliens land, I would love to know if there is intelligent life on other planets. On the other hand I see many people making claims that cannot be backed up and insisting on things that are obviously not UFOs as being aliens. I also see some skeptics suggesting silly crap like the UFO that some saw as being a comet! I've been lucky enough to be alive and in a good viewing area to see comets. No matter what any one would like to think comets do not flash across the sky in a few seconds, total silliness! I like to discuss the issue in a calm and scientific manner. If more people approached the subject eyes open and hearts closed we might see something really amazing.
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Re: Why do UFO's spin?
One night, I was driving down I-5 from Seattle to Olympia. A bright blue ball lit up in the sky and traveled at an angle that bemused me. Furthermore, It moved between the low-lying clouds and took an arc that suggested something other than falling. I was taking Astronomy/Cosmology full-time at this point, so it made for an interesting class discussion. My teacher asked me to make a list of explainable reasons why I would see this. I whittled it down and the only peg I was left with was the bright blue color. My prof explained that meteors can be blue. I asked her if she has ever seen something like I described. She said no.
I was trumped. She called me out in front of the whole class.
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I was driving along GA-316 towards Athens and I saw a brilliant blue meteor fall *all the way across the sky*. I smiled, because my experience years before was visually repeated. My prof was right!!
I agree that most people don't look up, but those that do *seriously* have not reported UFO sightings. When I visited Chacos Canyon's observatory with my Astronomy/Cosmology class, both Astronomers teaching and guiding the instruments were absolute in their answers when one of my classmates asked about UFOs and ET. They shook their heads and explained that if there were UFOs, they would be the one's to see it. These people spend their whole life watching the sky.
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One night, I was driving down I-5 from Seattle to Olympia. A bright blue ball lit up in the sky and traveled at an angle that bemused me. Furthermore, It moved between the low-lying clouds and took an arc that suggested something other than falling. I was taking Astronomy/Cosmology full-time at this point, so it made for an interesting class discussion. My teacher asked me to make a list of explainable reasons why I would see this. I whittled it down and the only peg I was left with was the bright blue color. My prof explained that meteors can be blue. I asked her if she has ever seen something like I described. She said no.
I was trumped. She called me out in front of the whole class.
Years later...
I was driving along GA-316 towards Athens and I saw a brilliant blue meteor fall *all the way across the sky*. I smiled, because my experience years before was visually repeated. My prof was right!!
I agree that most people don't look up, but those that do *seriously* have not reported UFO sightings. When I visited Chacos Canyon's observatory with my Astronomy/Cosmology class, both Astronomers teaching and guiding the instruments were absolute in their answers when one of my classmates asked about UFOs and ET. They shook their heads and explained that if there were UFOs, they would be the one's to see it. These people spend their whole life watching the sky.
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Actually there are astronomers who have seen inexplicable things in the sky but no for sure nuts and bolts alien space ships. having said that it is sad that many sighting do indeed start out as things that if the person who saw it had the knowledge or the need to explain it in some other way it probably could be explained that way. On the other hand there are sighting that not only defy explanation but point very strongly in the direction of some type of unknown craft under intelligent control. I'm not sure how to reconcile the reports of this type with the reports of things that if more information was available it would be explained. All I know for sure is they do exist and no reasonable explanation exists for them.
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