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Edible mushroom?
In my back yard, I just found what looks like a Cortinarius caperatus, or "Gypsy...
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Re: Edible mushroom?
But, if you give us some more info, we can help ID it, or at least narrow it down.
A: Thanks!!
Where are they growing (region and local conditions)?
A: Spring, TX, just north of Houston
Can you post a picture of the underside?
A: above
Measurements of size?
A: The largest is about 4-5 inches in diameter
Have you taken a spore print?
A: Sorry, I don't know what a spore print is. |
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Re: Edible mushroom?
hey Lemit you might want to try the forums at shroomery.org, they have many experts that are very helpful in id'ing mushrooms of all varieties - they will want a spore print as Freezy suggested and pictures also.
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Well, the mushroom hasn't lasted a hundredth of the time this thread has. I don't even remember what it looked like. I did take the sensible advice. I threw the mushroom away and have avoided all others that have grown in my yard since then.
--lemit
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ah whoops, I didnt realise the original question was months ago 
The mushrooms will grow back next year and if you are interested then get an ID from the site I mentioned  |
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Have you taken a spore print?
A: Sorry, I don't know what a spore print is.
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A spore print is basically a "fingerprint" of the mushroom. You cut the stalk so the mushroom lies flat and place it on a white piece of paper overnight with some sort of covering over the mushroom. The next day, you should see the spores that fell out of the gills on the piece of paper. The color of these spores is often used in identification of mushrooms. For a truly accurate ID, mycologists use microscopes to measure the size and shape of the individual spores. Sometimes species can differ by only a few µm or less.
With some mushrooms, you can look for build up on the annulus (the ring around the stalk). In this case, the spores look purple-ish (judging from the photo). Can you confirm this with a spore print?
Also, notice the odor and give a piece of the cap or stalk a cut and look for any lactation or bruised tissues at the site. |
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Last edited by freeztar; 10-12-2009 at 02:15 PM..
Reason: changed mm to µm
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Sorry for the delayed response. By the time I got around to it all the mushrooms were gone. We had another rain however, so above is the spore print. The color is a deep blue green. Also, they always appear after a good rain and are in a crescent cluster around an dead tree, if that helps.
Thanks! |
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Since they appear in an arc around a dead tree, these would be classified in a broad grouping of mushrooms referred to as fairy ring mushrooms.
There's only so many species that exhibit this trait in N. America.
I'll need to do some research to pin this one down... |
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Re: Edible mushroom?
Ok, if your spore print is indeed green (the picture looks black), then it must be this mushroom: Chlorophyllum molybdites
Blue or green spore prints are rather rare. Are you sure about the color? |
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Well, I was sure. I asked my wife her opinion and she says its grey. To me I'm seeing some green in it. I looked at the pictures on mushroomexpert.com and it sounds like the chlorophyllum molybdites mushroom since its gills definately get darker (green in my opinion) as it ages. When they're fresh they're more white. One thing that is throwing me off though is that the scales on top of the mushroom in the pictures online are much more pronounced. If you take a look at my mushrooms:  you'll see there are only a few spots on them. In any case, if it is the chlorophyllum molybdites mushroom, is it edible and worth eating? |
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Originally Posted by blaneyg
Well, I was sure. I asked my wife her opinion and she says its grey. To me I'm seeing some green in it. I looked at the pictures on mushroomexpert.com and it sounds like the chlorophyllum molybdites mushroom since its gills definately get darker (green in my opinion) as it ages. When they're fresh they're more white. One thing that is throwing me off though is that the scales on top of the mushroom in the pictures online are much more pronounced. If you take a look at my mushrooms: you'll see there are only a few spots on them. |
Well, the color is important. To me, from the picture, your print looks black, though cameras can play dirty tricks with color.
Here's a picture of someone else's spore print:
Would you say it looks similar to yours?
The spots can vary quite a bit depending on different factors. Some mushrooms are more varied than others. If you do a search for chlorophyllum molybdites at google images, you can see the variations of this one species.
chlorophyllum molybdites - Google Images
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In any case, if it is the chlorophyllum molybdites mushroom, is it edible and worth eating?
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Nope. It is poisonous and certainly not worth the sickness. |
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