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Exclamation Honey Bees Disappearing!

I only recently heard of 'colony collapse disorder' and it sounds as if it is getting serious. It...

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By Cedars on 03-26-2007
Re: Information from an old SciAm article, and a bee keeper friend

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The native wild-bee populations, however, were devastated. In the opinions of many experts, such as a friend of mine who is a commercial bee keeper, any true honey bee found in the mid-Atlantic US is likely to have strayed from a apiary, or from a wild hive from an escaped queen from one. It’s likely that all or nearly all native wild hives in the US where commercial bee keeping was practiced were wiped out before 1995.

Bee keepers such as my friend responded by voluntarily “regionalizing” apiaries – not transporting hives long distances, but maintaining them locally and transporting them only short distances. There’s some evidence that various honey bees species are making a comeback in areas where they were effectively extinct decades ago, though whether these are resurgences of wild bee colonies, or due to escaped commercial bees, is uncertain.

Nature's response to this extinction was remarkable. Other species, primarily wasps, moved into and took over the ecological niches vacated by extinct bee species. In many cases, these wasps were near look-alikes for honey bees. So, even if bees regain their health, they may have a fight on their hands to regain ownership of their niches
Good Post CraigD, but I just want to take a moment to clarify that the wild honey bees are all exotics to n.america, but there are Native Bees which are not hive type, rather they are solitary nesters (as I understand it). When refering to wild honey bees, one must understand it in the context of Ring-necked pheasant (for example) in that domestic/exotic honey bees can and do escape and establish themselves in the wild. It is the Native bees which show high resistance to the mites and many of the other diseases which are impacting domestic hives in N. America. The native bees tend to be ground nesters which have taken a beating via many farming practices among other issues, such as pesticides.

Heres a link regarding different types of Native Bees:

Pollinating Insect-Biology: Is it or isn't it a bee?

I have a type similar to this in my collection (found via the tear down of an old building, the mud cocoon and lavae in their shells were under the loose shingles), but the bee has more yellow banding:
Knox Cellars Native Pollinators

Another link regarding nests:
Bee friendly: Orchard mason bees aren't just for fruit trees

Do you have any links regarding the wasps that look like honey bees? This is the first I remember hearing of that type of wasp/hornet but maybe its not native in this region. Or maybe I just can tell the difference (thats not a honey bee, even though I dont know what kind of bee it is (when its really a wasp/hornet type).

And there are plenty of flys which mimic the bee in shape and coloring. The spiders (they look like crabs and come in assorted colors) that hunt the flowers will avoid a bee, but take a similar looking fly. Its pretty easy to tell when a spider spots a bee in the flower and the spider ducks down or moves to the opposite side of the petal or stem. Partially due to the wasps/hornets that hunt for spiders too, I would guess.
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By FrankM on 03-26-2007
Re: Honey Bees Dying Off!

In central CA the recent abundant "chill hours" has resulted in a rapid bloom period for stone fruit.

Valley Voice Newspaper

It will be interesting to learn how well the short bloom period will be pollinated, considering the reduced bee populations. In my area it is difficult to find bee activity even on plants that are typically swarming with bees.
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By Turtle on 04-15-2007
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Here's a new report that lays the blame on the electromagnetic cloud our cell phones create. >>>

Are mobile phones wiping out our bees? - Independent Online Edition > Wildlife

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The theory is that radiation from mobile phones interferes with bees' navigation systems, preventing the famously homeloving species from finding their way back to their hives. Improbable as it may seem, there is now evidence to back this up.
Who ya gonna call???
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By Peter Parker on 04-15-2007
Re: The bee/wasp distinction

Oh noes!!! Thats terrible...Also, I was watching something about Killer bees on national geographic and it seems like their population is rapidly increasing....as well as fire ants.
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By Cedars on 04-15-2007
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Here's a new report that lays the blame on the electromagnetic cloud our cell phones create. >>>

Are mobile phones wiping out our bees? - Independent Online Edition > Wildlife



Who ya gonna call???
The article was too vague to determine whether there is any reason to believe cell phones have that much of an impact. It states "when mobile phones are placed nearby". What exactly is nearby?
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By InternationalSpaceAgency on 04-15-2007
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There are two things effecting bees in this regards.

1) Pollution is effecting the bees when they seek food, and is causing a decline in the bees emune system.

2) Scientists who are studying the present state of the Earths magnetic field, are concerned that a magnetic polar shift is underway. This is effecting bee and avian navagation, and thus effecting access "navagation" to food and reproduction areas.
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By Turtle on 04-15-2007
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There are two things effecting bees in this regards.

1) Pollution is effecting the bees when they seek food, and is causing a decline in the bees emune system.

2) Scientists who are studying the present state of the Earths magnetic field, are concerned that a magnetic polar shift is underway. This is effecting bee and avian navagation, and thus effecting access "navagation" to food and reproduction areas.
Not to over-nitpick, but the word you mean to use Mr/Ms ISA is 'affecting', not 'effecting'. Oh, and it's 'navigation', not 'navagation', and 'immune', not emune.

Since you haven't got my confidence by virtue of your spelling, perhaps you have some links to proffer that suffort your points?
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By InternationalSpaceAgency on 04-15-2007
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Ever here of a thing called, DYSLEXIA?

Sadly, many people with high I.Q., have this affliction.

I am one who has this! When I interact on forums like this, I have little time to spell & grammer check, as I would in a professional publication or letter.

This affliction is terrible, and when I was in my precollege years, they branded me as dumb because of this. I could be in MENZA if I wanted, and my I.Q. is in the top 10% of the general population.

If you met me in person, and carried out a verbal conversation, you would never know I have DYSLEXIA.

I am well versed in hundreds of professional and scientific fields, and have great applied real world experience far beyond the average person.

Spelling, although important in a professional sence, is not more important than the information presented. What about non-english speakers, who are Drs. and PhDs., and mispell numserious words, and have poor grammer. Does that mean what they know or what they have to say has less meaning because of a misspelling!

Can language professors build rockets or mnipulate mathmatical forumulas that fill multiple black boards? I think not!

Because a Professor or Doctor of language cannot do these things, does it make them dumb or irrelivent!?

Hmm?!



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Not to over-nitpick, but the word you mean to use Mr/Ms ISA is 'affecting', not 'effecting'. Oh, and it's 'navigation', not 'navagation', and 'immune', not emune.

Since you haven't got my confidence by virtue of your spelling, perhaps you have some links to proffer that suffort your points?
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By HappytheStripper on 04-15-2007
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I only recently heard of 'colony collapse disorder' and it sounds as if it is getting serious. A quick web search of 'colony collapse disorder' nets about 25,000 hits. Here's just one: News | Telegraph

Any of you heard of this? Noticed bee loss in your locale? Ever tried to pollinate an apple tree by hand?
Hey Turtle..

Yes.. in New Zealand I have heard of "colony collapse disorder".. and just like the next person.. I certainly hope honey doesnt disappear.. as honey is for many reasons.. a medicinal necessity.. and one of natures true wonders..

Active UMF Manuka Honey found only in New Zealand.. has naturally occurring properties which can assist your body against harmful bacteria..

Honey New Zealand : Manuka Honey and healthy honey bee products

New Zealand have had many problems in recent years with the Varroa Mite.. an insect which has effectively wiped out the bee population in NZ.. mostly the South Island at this point.. although it is heading North..

New Zealand beekeeper groups are concerned that unregistered beekeepers in the Nelson region may jeopardise the varroa identification enterprise currently underway in that area..

In studying the effects of the varroa mite among many other problems the honey industry face.. Scientists are said to have cracked the bee code to honey pot.. what this means is..

Bees' have a biological clock to tell the time of day.. using a sophisticated navigation system to locate food miles away.. and can produce the sweetest natural substance on earth simply by chewing up pollen grains..

The secret life of the honey bee is about to be revealed.. after the success of an international effort to decipher the full genetic recipe of the most economically valuable insect...

Scientists have published the results in the journals Nature and Science.

An early analysis of the genes has shown that the honey bee's ancestors originated in Africa and migrated at least twice in the distant past to populate Asia and Europe..

Another finding is that the honey bee has an unusually high number of genes devoted to smell.. making a bee better at detecting a scent in the air than fruit flies or mosquitoes..

Scientists hope that more secrets will be explained at the molecular level with the help of the full DNA sequence of the only social insect to be partially domesticated by man..

A study of the bee's genome has shown that the molecular machinery of its internal body clock more closely resembles that of a mammal than of other insects.. said Guy Bloch of the Hebrew University in Jerusalem.

The bee can learn to reach flowers at nine different times of the day with an accuracy of 20 minutes.. the clock is essential for its navigation system - based on the movement of the sun in the sky - which can locate a food source up to 9.6km away..

Dr Bloch states.. Discovering that molecular characteristics of the biological clock in bees is closer to the biological clock of mammals than that of flies was a big surprise..

Scientists also announced the discovery of the world's oldest bee.. a 100-million-year-old specimen preserved in amber that had evolved from a wasp-like ancestor.. It was about 40 million years older than the previous oldest known bee fossil.

Honey bees evolved millions of years later alongside flowering plants in a symbiotic relationship.. said Hugh Robertson.. professor of entomology at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign..

Today bees pollinate billions of dollars worth of agricultural crops..

Scientists had hoped that the honey bee genome would also explain how it evolved into being a social insect with a caste of sterile female workers.. male drones and a fertile queen.

"However.. we didn't find much diversification of such social genes."

The scientists hope that by selectively silencing certain honey bee genes.. they will be able to work out which ones are involved in the genetic programming necessary for the evolution of castes within the hive..


Honey Bee Facts

* Some 20,000 bee species exist.. on every continent except Antarctica.

* They carry an electrostatic charge.. which helps pollen stick to their bodies.

* Despite their sometimes painful sting.. bees are one of the few insects used on advertisements.. mostly to promote honey or in Sanitariums case.. HoneyPuffs which I love the most..
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By Turtle on 04-15-2007
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Ever here of a thing called, DYSLEXIA?

Because a Professor or Doctor of language cannot do these things, does it make them dumb or irrelivent!?

Hmm?!

GETE (Grinning Ear To Ear) Simma down nah. We're all bozos on this bus Doc; we all have our peccadillos & brash claims & poor speeling are a couple of mine.

So, got any links to support what you presented as scientific analysis of the bee colony disorder that has folks studying it stumped? No hurry; I'm a turtle through & through.

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Honey Bee Facts

* Some 20,000 bee species exist.. on every continent except Antarctica.

* They carry an electrostatic charge.. which helps pollen stick to their bodies.

* Despite their sometimes painful sting.. bees are one of the few insects used on advertisements.. mostly to promote honey or in Sanitariums case.. HoneyPuffs which I love the most..
Wow! I never heard about the electrostatic charge on bees. I have seen reports of people using bee-stings as therapy for arthritis & such. I keep a 6 pound jug of honey in my survival supplies; I hear it stores indefinately.
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