perception of time

[Freethinker]

Originally posted by: rileyj
"experienced in slow motion" is relative. There is nothing about time that allows one individual control over it's passing."

if one was traveling close to the speed of light then time would move slower for that person compared to someone on earth.

That is not doing anything about time, that is doing something about your special reference point.

And the same is true no matter what speed, not just close to the speed of light, but any speed "closer".

[Freethinker]

Originally posted by: rileyj
Tim_lou, The original question was related to a flies PERCEPTION of time. I question whether a fly CAN "perceive" time. In order to perceive time, one must percieve self.

this is wrong,in order to understand time one must percieve time. animals percieve time as we do they just dont know of it.

This is self contradictory. One of the requirements for perception, for something to be "perceived", is being "aware of it", KNOWING it. If the agent does not KNOW something happened, then they did NOT perceive it.

timing is very important when hunting or being hunted. theypercive the world as we do in their own way. how does the tiger know when to strick? he knows because he waits for the right moment. waiting requiers passing of time. therefore he know to wait, andknows when it is TIME to attack

A weem a wepp a weem a wepp a weem a wepp....

[Freethinker]

Originally posted by: lindagarrette
When I dropped acid, I perceived time very differently than when I was thinking clearly.

Define thinking clearly! :-)

[Freethinker]

Originally posted by: Tormod
As for insects and plants having a sense of self, here is some food for thought:

It is a short essay on signs of perception of different kinds of self in animals and plants.

Thx Tormod, great article. Being a quasi Skinnerian, I have little trouble with allowing the application of various levels of intellect to other species. Or perhaps more accurately, mo
ving humans in their more appropriate place in the midst of the animal world.

[rileyj]

"That is not doing anything about time, that is doing something about your special reference point."

the twin paradox show show time can affect people differently. if a person controls their speed and as a result time as a changed effect on a person than you are effecting your time line

[rileyj]

"And the same is true no matter what speed, not just close to the speed of light, but any speed "closer". "

i know

[Freethinker]

Originally posted by: rileyj
"That is not doing anything about time, that is doing something about your special reference point."

the twin paradox show show time can affect people differently.

Twins? perhaps thru ARTIFICIAL insemination?

"Affect" is subjective, a personal opinion. That does not change the actuality of time as a fixed reference. A specific dimension.

if a person controls their speed and as a result time as a changed effect on a person than you are effecting your time line

all "people" have relative time. All people control theit speed.

Time is fixed no matter what. Only our perception of it changes. And that is a personal, SPECIAL relationship which requires self awareness.

Thus we circle back around.

[Freethinker]

Originally posted by: rileyj
"And the same is true no matter what speed, not just close to the speed of light, but any speed "closer". "

i know

Then you KNEW you incorrectly stated

if one was traveling close to the speed of light

Why then did you post it?

[rileyj]

"This is self contradictory. One of the requirements for perception, for something to be "perceived", is being "aware of it", KNOWING it. If the agent does not KNOW something happened, then they did NOT perceive it."

every living thing has a timeline where they know of it or not. they might not know that it is time but theypercieveit. whydo animals have biological clocks. they know when to wake sleep eat etc..

[rileyj]

"A weem a wepp a weem a wepp a weem a wepp.... "

thats not an answer