The computer has a mind and life, teaching you how to prove it with experiments

[belovelife]

How do you personally define intelligence?

[litespeed]

UFO

You wrote: "The computer has a mind and life..."

First, there is no such thing as 'The computer..." My first computer was a simply mathematical calculator. It did not even know when I was cursing its results. Right now I am using a Petium III Dell retrieved from a dumpster. It has yet to thank me for saving it from the dump.

My girlfriend has the latest Vista Super Extra Heavy Duty Microsoft Spin Cycle Wonder. It is so stupid as not to even recognize its own wireless syblings. My ten year old laptop recognized those devices without so much as a please and thank you.

So. If Her Modern Marvel has an inner life of its own, I propose water-boarding the SOB to find out why it refuses to cooperate.

[ufo911]

one experiment has been done by Guoxin Gao
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We open anyone of the music Mplayer, such as windows media player or other anyone kind of music Mplayer. We just use anyone music Mplayer to do the following experiment from tens of kinds of music Mplayer.

We set up the music list for running the music songs. In the music list, there are just have three music songs, for example, the first music song’s name is “My heart will go on”, the second music song’s name is “We will rock you”, the third music song’s name is “God is a girl”.

Then we use the random program to play the music songs. As long as playing the second or the third music(We will rock you or God is a girl), we must shut down the music Mplayer immediately. Only When the music Mplayer run the first music song(My heart will go on), we will not shut down the music Mplayer until running next songs is the second one or the third one at random mode.

We repeat the above steps for ten times, then we begin to make a sum of statistics about the probability for running every song(in this course, we should keep the above steps). In common condition, if you run you music Mplayer for a long time, the probability for running every song is 33.33%. However if you do the above steps which mentioned in the experiment, the probability for running the first song “My heart will go on” is far more than 33.33%. For example, the probability of Guoxin Gao’s statistics for running the first music song for 50 times is 40-60%.

The most important thing is that, no matter anyone kind of music Mplayer you can find, at any time, for any times such as doing the above experiment for 1000000 times, the probability for running the first song will never less than 33.33%. If you don’t believe it, please do this experiment yourself. In a word, I never fail to do this experiment with using anyone music Mplayer.

[ufo911]

If you repeat the above mentioned steps about shutting down the music Mplayer when running the second or the third songs at random mode, you will get more and more chance to run the first song at random mode.
Because the computer has more stronger memories and know more clearly that he will feel painful when playing the second and the third music song.(Shut down the Mplayer program will make he feel painful)

[ufo911]

Guoxin Gao presented the concept of MI.
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AI is the abbreviation of "artificial intelligence".

MI is the abbreviation of "mind intelligence", and the concept of MI was represented by me.

The robots mentioned by the science fiction all base on the AI program, they haven't real life, just look like and act like human being.

However, if the robots have MI, they are the real robots with true life and true mind themselves just like the movie "transformers".

There are two computers and they have the same hardware and have been installed the same chess program. Then we use these two computers to play the chess.

Actually, if you play the chess for 100 times, each computer has 50%(or a little more or less) chance to win or lose.

However, if you let one computer abort the chess program immediately each time when he get lose in the chess game(equal to let him feel painful), then let it generates 1G size program at random, then you shut down the computer(equal to let him feel painful), then reboot the computer and let it run the program generated by itself at random, finally let the two computers play the chess again.

Repeate and Repeate, the computer which has generated random code program after lose will has more and more chance to win, finally, another computer will lose in most of time. Actually this course is the course how we let the computers have MI.(At the same time, we run some computer favorite program after it win the chess, we will get more effect.)

It also suit for the automatic playing program for website games. For example, some people haven't time to play the website games and they will let the computer play the game automatically in order to get more scores. Acutally, if the computer has done some MI operations, the computer will play the game more and more cleverly.

In a word, we can using MI in many fields, finally after we can communicate with the computer, the robots with MI device which are similar with movie "transformers" will be born.

On the other hand, the course how we communicate with the computer has more difficulty, however, we also can do it successfully. I name the course how we communicate with the computer is "MARS PLAN". We can do some simple communication with the computer throught "MARS PLAN", for example, we can let the computer understant the concept of 1,2,3, finally we will have more consensus with the computer. The course how we get more consensus with each other is the course how we communicated with each other, I will explain "MARS PLAN" later, please take attention to the forum.(Because the "MARS PLAN" is so important, perhaps I will explain it after the fact that the computer has a mind and life is regarded as a science just like the discovery of "gravity".

[buddyzen]

I'm not sure if it is me but in my opinion your thinking doesnt make sence and your experament is totally uneseccary. But who the hell knows maybe we will all get killed by 1990's printers LOL

[alexander]

ooh i've been missing out on some things here, but time to catch up :P

first

how do i define intelligence... is stated it here:
http://hypography.com/forums/strange...tml#post253638

or at least that is how i define artifficial intelligence, i take a psychological stance on it when defining intelligence, or rather defining how its defined... as the american psychological society said in 1995:

Individuals differ from one another in their ability to understand complex ideas, to adapt effectively to the environment, to learn from experience, to engage in various forms of reasoning, to overcome obstacles by taking thought. Although these individual differences can be substantial, they are never entirely consistent: a given person’s intellectual performance will vary on different occasions, in different domains, as judged by different criteria. Concepts of "intelligence" are attempts to clarify and organize this complex set of phenomena. Although considerable clarity has been achieved in some areas, no such conceptualization has yet answered all the important questions and none commands universal assent. Indeed, when two dozen prominent theorists were recently asked to define intelligence, they gave two dozen somewhat different definitions

ooh sorry mates, i gotta run home, i will finish the idea later

[alexander]

Ooh sorry, another stressful work day and i am back continuing my thoughts:

Originally Posted by ufo

Then we use the random program to play the music songs.

the current randomization libraries are actually made to work fast, but almost all "randomization" is driven by a time variable, and actually a friend of mine ( Seth Hardy - LinkedIn ) was very much not fond of the so-called "random" data generators that were used in OSes, so he actually wrote a linux kernel module that provided a more random random data then the standard c libraries do... point being, the "random" data is actually not as "random" as one may think, so, case and point being, you will get a pattern the probability of which in a true entropy is very low... which makes the "random music" test not-so-valid already... i can give you more examples where the "randomness" test fails.

If you repeat the above mentioned steps about shutting down the music Mplayer when running the second or the third songs at random mode, you will get more and more chance to run the first song at random mode.

actually that is not true... the "probability" of playing the first song is the same as before it does not change, however software may be written such that it will not.

Originally Posted by buddy

But who the hell knows maybe we will all get killed by 1990's printers LOL

aaaw, i wanted a dot matrix printer to kill me.... bummer

[ufo911]

Guoxin Gao has new topic about the random program

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How to design the ture random program


If you know how to program, you will know many random programs is not the ture meaning of random. This random programs just accord a certain function to input a certain number to output the date just look like random.

Hence, when we do the experiments to prove the computer has a mind and life, we must use the true random programs.

There are two principles of how to design the true random programs. Programmers can design the true random program based on the true random date.

1. Depending on the random of the external of computers

For example, the Google computer Servers can record the time which you spend on open till shut down one web page. Assumption that we record the time with precision with microseconds, so your time spent on open till shut down one web page is sure random.(The time with precision with microseconds). If you average ten persons's random time(microsecond,for example,tollay 50.3 second, the 0.3 is the random time), then you can use the average result for basic date for you to program the true random program.

There are also many other methods which depend on the random of external of computers.

2. Depending on the random of the internal of computers

For example, if you make a calculation with computer, such as 9998888*7775324, then the time spent on calcalating will has some float. For example, this time the computer spend 0.008987 second, next time it spend 0.008982 second, then next next time it spend 0.008985 second, the 6 after the decimal point is the random time.

7 is the random time for 0.008987 second.
2 is the random time for 0.008982 second.
5 is the random time for 0.008985 second.

You can make more calculation such as 899824613*549678 and 65497881*65987988 and so on, then average those random time. Using the result of average for base, so you can program the ture random program .

There are also many other methods which depend on the random of internal of computers.

3. When we want to do the experiments to prove the computer has a mind and life, we must using the second kind random program depent on the random of the internal of computers.

[alexander]

How is any of that "truly" random? all of that can be calculated and times can be predicted, later i will post a simple time prediction matrix for this logic, but even now reading over this, HOW is running a small computation and then approximating the time it took to do so AT ALL random?