Science Like No Other

[Pyrotex]

Originally Posted by InfiniteNow

Even makes julienne fries! Call now and our operators will throw in some mystical crystals to keep evil spirits out of your underwear... It's all so clear to me now. You're ..."obsessed with white stuff."

Well that could be.

On the other hand, I wonder sometimes how many people we get who are experiencing emotional dysfunctions, the onset of schitzophrenia, severe autistic-like disorders, and other hallucinatory conditions, delusions of grandeur and visions. I can name two "regulars" who post here frequently who are several sigmas off from reality. Well, three if you count our resident radical honester.

[pamela]

Originally Posted by seancetruth

I have all the secrets of infinity in my hands,
i really want to spread it to as many scientists
as possible. so here i go.

hmmm fortune teller?

here's a simple scientific test you can experiement
with.

wear black clothes and go to a busy mall
you will notice your mind really hurts, this
is because black colors ( or dark colors )
are pulling other humans imagination and bringing
them to close to you and you read it.

kinda like reading this post in black font is doing to my mind right now?

this causes stress especially when you are
surrounded by religious people or something.

religious people don't cause me stress, they cause themselves stress

but when you WEAR WHITE CLOTHES..
the opposite is true, you reject everyones idealogy
and you get to feel free with your own science.your own imagination is not disturbed.

hmmm white is not my color, how do you feel about grey and olive green? on second thought, don't answer the grey comment and the green likely invokes the big bucks, eh?

you can optimize and re-test this if you want.
you can even wax the body hair you have
and dye your hair to yellow or white.

oh yikes! can't touch the wax comment and i am way too young for the Gandalf do

trust me, this is extreme science like no other
and i have it cracked, this can be used to
stop aging, reverse aging,

trust you? are you kidding me?

we can use this to time travel, be immortal
and make money too

oh boy....i think you have been traveling somewhere, and no thanks to the immortality-you are really creeping me out
yeah gimme the cash and hit the road pal

because infinity's law suggests the more people
you spread this truth to of, the more money
you are likely to make. ( it's the reward you
get from infinity for giving people the secret )

totally sales pitch dude, did you learn at Zig Zigler's knee?

so tell people to wear white ( be nice, by force
is prohibited by federal law of infinity ).

well although i do make a concentrated effort to be nice, well kinda, not maybe so much in this thread, i really dont want to see the masses floating around in white garb- really creepy

or just wear white clothes and walk around
shopping malls, you become a role model
and your influence alone will earn you money.

well, there again gotta ditch the white and avoiding the mall is always a good thing. Role model makes money??? well i better get my kids to pay up

WHITE as you know is a color that pushes
while BLACK is a color that pulls light.so imagine if you were made up of light
and you were wearing black clothes.

hmmm is that a push-me-pull you? guess you would end up in grey-hey, i like grey

you'd age faster than anyone else

.
whats wrong with age? i am 46 and proud of it and despite that fact that i indeed do wear black, i look 36 and pretty damn good in that black mini

if you were wearing white, because it pushes
the light back, you could stop yourself
from aging.

really...well the last time that i wore white was on my wedding day and that death sentence certainly aged me beyond my years.

try experiementing this with luxury places
because there is a competition going on, on earth

.
no competition? geeze, i dunno, those 22 year olds can hold a candle to me

it's as if everyones soul has some jealousy
inside them and they do not like it when
someone is about to spread the truth and rise
into power.

nope i am not jealous no reason to be, plenty of fish in that ocean to be shared with the 22 year olds

so keep yourself safe, experienment around
luxury stores where your safety is not jeapordized

.
safe is good and keep your wits about you especially in science forums where there lurks all types of trolls

if you are a highly scientific person, try avoiding
conversation with highly religious people

.
well that bites! some of my most fondest memories are in refuting, stripping and the tearing down of the religious- you are just a no fun kinda guy

my own great parents are religious, so i am not
talking to them not even on the phone.

now that is just plain wrong dude, despite what they believe you should love and respect them as the poor souls that dragged you into this world

their voice and the way they think can interfier
with my imagination and distort the science
i am working on.

well your parents might not be the best choice, but certainly someone needs to get inside your head and undo the distortion that you have created

please feel free to ask me for more information
i am on youtube right now

ugh, i think i have read enough

youtube.com/summertimedancings
post comments on my channel i'll respond 24/7
to every question you have.

on my youtube page i found david's video wow
i really want to give this guy all the secrets i have
he can put it into media, become a billionaire
and spark a revolution that can save us all.

oh hell a revolution, i am so outta here on the first space ship and yes wearing red!

i mean all of us, we are all about to become
immortal supreme beings.

pardon me while i go vomit, thanks

all we have to do is wear white clothes
and be obsessed with white stuff.

very simple.

obsessed? may i direct you to the nearest counselor?

this is no joke, i am about to get this party started

Summer Time Dance

will there be tequila? cause it will take more than a few shots to tolerate any more of this garbage

[lemit]

Originally Posted by pamela

whats wrong with age? i am 46 and proud of it and despite that fact that i indeed do wear black, i look 36 and pretty damn good in that black mini

I have to admit I have no idea what you wrote after that. I guess I'm a sucker for a "little black dress."

Now, about that waxing . . . .

--lemit

[Pyrotex]

You know, this isn't the first time that some yahoo started a wacko thread, made a few posts, got suspended, and the thread continued on for pages and pages! I think Hypographers are strangely attracted to such 'truncated' threads. I know I am. It's like a blank slate for reflecting philosophically or pontificating on the nature of human pseudo-reasoning.
Hi Pamela!
Hi Lemit!
We could all wear white, whistle willfully, while away the time in wonder, and stop aging.
We could give up our jobs and stop waging.
We could give up our anger and stop raging.
We could dress all of China in white and stop Beijing.
We could give up posting and stop engaging.

No. That would not do. Where is my blue shirt?

My cat, Buddy Bear is sitting next to my keyboard.
He keeps away all the ideologies.

[Jway]

I'm just a little curious why the suggested test was not discussed as something to "put to the test?" To subject it to scientific method?

It seems like it was met with blast the heck out of it, and don't even consider testing validity of it ever.

The OP claims strike me as outlandish, but as I reread OP, it is calling forth test. Sure it's saying other things, but seems like respondents on this thread are playing a game other than "scientific reasoning."

Anyway, dialogue on this thread is helping me get used to the turf on the (part of the) forum. My questions on this thread are really just questions, but if you feel like ripping me a new one, go right on ahead. I'll be okay.

[arkain101]

Jway has a point.

Maybe some of us are just cracking some jokes. But I'd have to say when members respond in an insulting way it bothers me.

I didnt even read the OP.. so I can't say much more.

[InfiniteNow]

I take it none of you have ever faced peer-review. Bunch of wussies.

[freeztar]

Originally Posted by Jway

I'm just a little curious why the suggested test was not discussed as something to "put to the test?" To subject it to scientific method?

I think I can help clear this up for you, Jway. The reason no one here has run the test and subjected it to the scientific method is because it is complete hogwash. The predictions it makes are false from the very beginning. For example, it is claimed that people will see you in a more positive way if you are wearing white, rather than black. This might be true for a doctor, but would it be true for someone in the KKK?

Furthermore, the rant in the OP deteriorates into a money making scheme. It sounds like the testing has already been done and it's time to start making the big bucks by being positive role models by wearing all white.

Jway, I agree that there's no need for insults, but surely you agree, having read the OP, that the idea is ludicrous. If not, feel free to perform the experiment yourself and report back.

The OP claims strike me as outlandish, but as I reread OP, it is calling forth test. Sure it's saying other things, but seems like respondents on this thread are playing a game other than "scientific reasoning."

Again, it's just ludicrous to begin with. Let me quote the experiment:

here's a simple scientific test you can experiement
with.

wear black clothes and go to a busy mall
you will notice your mind really hurts, this
is because black colors ( or dark colors )
are pulling other humans imagination and bringing
them to close to you and you read it.

this causes stress especially when you are
surrounded by religious people or something.

but when you WEAR WHITE CLOTHES..
the opposite is true, you reject everyones idealogy
and you get to feel free with your own science.

your own imagination is not disturbed.

I have worn black clothes in the mall and my head did not hurt. I also did not feel like my clothing was "pulling other humans imagination and bringing them close". How would you even test such a thing? What instruments would you use to quantify the amount of imagination your black clothing was pulling close to you?

In other words, the reason this idea is not being investigated scientifically is because it is not scientific.

[Jway]

Originally Posted by freeztar

Jway, I agree that there's no need for insults, but surely you agree, having read the OP, that the idea is ludicrous. If not, feel free to perform the experiment yourself and report back.

Thanks. That's the point I was raising and asking about. I think I saw this thread when it was 4 posts old and thought it ludicrous. The 2nd posts brings this out. But in my infancy on the forum, I thought scientists would have, how you say, less emotional reaction to the claims, and if refutation occurred, it would a) be no more than 3 posts and/or b) it would be based on grounds of scientific method. I didn't really really think people on this site would test the claim, but did think this thread would not go past page one. And didn't think it would gather such venom.

I have worn black clothes in the mall and my head did not hurt. I also did not feel like my clothing was "pulling other humans imagination and bringing them close". How would you even test such a thing? What instruments would you use to quantify the amount of imagination your black clothing was pulling close to you?

In other words, the reason this idea is not being investigated scientifically is because it is not scientific.

Hmmmm, that last claim is interesting. It strikes me as the stuff dogmas are made of.

I'm familiar with scientific method, but can we go with Wikipedia and 4 steps it cites for the method? Those are:
1 - Use your experience: Consider the problem and try to make sense of it. Look for previous explanations. If this is a new problem to you, then move to step 2
2 - Form a conjecture
3 - Deduce a prediction from that explanation: If you assume 2 is true, what consequences follow?
4 -Test: Look for the opposite of each consequence in order to disprove 2.

And are you suggesting this method could not apply to the experiment, as you have quoted it?

At any rate, my larger point was, why not just move on if you have nothing nice to say about the claim? Moreover, I didn't think this was type of site that would generate disparaging remarks about posters. I didn't think it was forbidden, but this thread seems like it could be more par for the course.

Calling people, openly, "a bunch of wussies."
Is there a place on this site where there is "no holds barred?" Lemme know as someone could be taught a thing or two about a thing or two.



(We could rename that the Obama smiley)

[freeztar]

Originally Posted by Jway

Hmmmm, that last claim is interesting. It strikes me as the stuff dogmas are made of.

I'm familiar with scientific method, but can we go with Wikipedia and 4 steps it cites for the method? Those are:
1 - Use your experience: Consider the problem and try to make sense of it. Look for previous explanations. If this is a new problem to you, then move to step 2
2 - Form a conjecture
3 - Deduce a prediction from that explanation: If you assume 2 is true, what consequences follow?
4 -Test: Look for the opposite of each consequence in order to disprove 2.

And are you suggesting this method could not apply to the experiment, as you have quoted it?

It *could* apply to the OP "experiment", but it can not currently. It needs a methodology! How many participants in the experiment? What defines a "crowded mall"? Should we use robes or dresses? Most importantly, how do we verify the imagination sucking ability of the black clothing?

No scientist in the world would be able to get past the experiment stage as the experiment is ill-defined.

At any rate, my larger point was, why not just move on if you have nothing nice to say about the claim? Moreover, I didn't think this was type of site that would generate disparaging remarks about posters. I didn't think it was forbidden, but this thread seems like it could be more par for the course.

Actually, it is against the rules to insult other members. If you ever see this happening, you should report the post.

Calling people, openly, "a bunch of wussies."
Is there a place on this site where there is "no holds barred?" Lemme know as someone could be taught a thing or two about a thing or two.

I'm quite sure that comment was meant as a joke and not directed at you personally. Though, I do agree it was rude.

There is no "no-holds-bar" area at hypography. We expect all members to behave as civilized humans and obey the simple rules of the site, anywhere on the site. Again, if you find a post offensive it is best to report it and let the moderators handle it.

(We could rename that the Obama smiley)