The Impact And Exit Event.

[Finchcliff]

Originally Posted by Boerseun

From the author's site:

Why does it sound like book-spam? Why do I see visions of McCutcheon's "Final Theory"?

Why does it sound like a 30-minute tv ad? "But wait! Order now, and you get a moon impactor for free!"

You're right, Freez - it does not bode well at all.

...maybe its because there is nothing for sale. The information is free to download.

[freeztar]

Originally Posted by Finchcliff

...maybe its because there is nothing for sale. The information is free to download.

At 230 pages, it would be best if you could pull the pertinent bits into this thread for discussion. I'm not willing to commit to reading 230 pages if we can disprove 2 right off the bat. At least, can you point us to certain pages to look at?

[Boerseun]

Very well, Finch, I'll grant you that. I might have been a bit quick on the draw - we do see lots of crazies on these forums, peddling wares that bear no fact or evidence. So, apologies all 'round for jumping to conclusions after reading the first few paragraphs of the site.

But seeing as my bandwidth sucks a bit, I can't download a 7Mb file within any reasonable amount of time. Oh, the joys of Third World connectivity. Would it be possible for you to give us a quick rundown of the main points regarding this theory, and how it differs from our current understanding?

[Finchcliff]

There are several elements within the theory that 'jump out' - e.g. are different than what I've seen or read elsewhere on the subject of impact events. I could be wrong, though.

Take the similarities between the Andes mountain range and the west coast of Africa (p.112): try superimposing one over the other as shown and you will see that there is a definite correlation.

The theory also suggests that the aftermath of the impact event was a huge amount of falling ejecta that, as it fell back to Earth created downward pressures which split the Earth's crust along a similar profile further to the east (where the west coast of Africa is today).

A couple of (what we all see as unconnected) major geological features appear to add weight to both of these observations. Firstly, the north/south profile of the Mid Atlantic Ridge is also almost identical to that of the Andes and the west coast of Africa (p. 87 & 88). This would suggest that a single cause created each.

Secondly, on page 117 the northernmost segments of the Andes in Columbia are described as the 'base' of the material ejected from the impact site. Upon closer inspection (using NOAA's imagery here), the suggestion that the Andes mountain range eminates from the undersea region close to Cuba is an observation worthy of further discussion, IMO.

Unlike plate tectonics, this concept has the potential to link each of the Africa/Mid Atlantic Ridge/Andes profiles together within one event.

I hope the above link works...

[Turtle]

Originally Posted by Finchcliff

There are several elements within the theory that 'jump out' - e.g. are different than what I've seen or read elsewhere on the subject of impact events. I could be wrong, though.

Take the similarities between the Andes mountain range and the west coast of Africa (p.112): try superimposing one over the other as shown and you will see that there is a definite correlation.

The theory also suggests that the aftermath of the impact event was a huge amount of falling ejecta that, as it fell back to Earth created downward pressures which split the Earth's crust along a similar profile further to the east (where the west coast of Africa is today).

A couple of (what we all see as unconnected) major geological features appear to add weight to both of these observations. Firstly, the north/south profile of the Mid Atlantic Ridge is also almost identical to that of the Andes and the west coast of Africa (p. 87 & 88). This would suggest that a single cause created each.

Secondly, on page 117 the northernmost segments of the Andes in Columbia are described as the 'base' of the material ejected from the impact site. Upon closer inspection (using NOAA's imagery here), the suggestion that the Andes mountain range eminates from the undersea region close to Cuba is an observation worthy of further discussion, IMO.

Unlike plate tectonics, this concept has the potential to link each of the Africa/Mid Atlantic Ridge/Andes profiles together within one event.

I hope the above link works...

yep; you're wrong to not even wrong. have you ever formally studied geology? if not, you're not likely to understand why this is wrong.

[Zythryn]

Let's look at this from a more basic level.
If the base concept is that another mass impacted the earth, passed through it an out the other side (along with some material from the earth) wouldn't the size of the impact be larger than is apparent?
I mean, that is a lot of energy involved, I would think it would have caused a crater closer to the size of all of North America?
Please note, for the time being I am ignoring the whole timeline, continental drift issue as those continents were not on opposite sides of the earth when the moon formed. For now, lets just take one concern at a time.

[Finchcliff]

Originally Posted by Turtle

yep; you're wrong to not even wrong. have you ever formally studied geology? if not, you're not likely to understand why this is wrong.

'Formally' - no. I just find the subject fascinating. For some reason all things 'impact related' attract my interest.

With regard to the theory being 'wrong', which part(s) of it are you relating to? Please provide a page reference so I can look again. Thanks.

Also (Freeztar), there is mention of antipodal effects at some point - but this is in relation to the Hellas Basin on Mars.

[Turtle]

Originally Posted by Finchcliff

'Formally' - no. I just find the subject fascinating. For some reason all things 'impact related' attract my interest.

With regard to the theory being 'wrong', which part(s) of it are you relating to? Please provide a page reference so I can look again. Thanks.

Also (Freeztar), there is mention of antipodal effects at some point - but this is in relation to the Hellas Basin on Mars.

the concept is flawed from the git-go. there is no need to look at your details. no material could or would survive an impact with sufficient energy to 'punch through a planet'.

the fella i gave reference to is a preiminent expert in high energy impact physics. take a few to read about him & what is involved in the real physics of what you propose.

Discover magazine recognizes Sandia physicist Mark Boslough - January 8, 2007

PS more interesting stuff from mark. >>

http://www.astrobio.net/pressrelease/273/ring-world

Rings around the Earth: A clue to climate change?
While most of us know about rings around Saturn and Jupiter, some scientists believe there once were rings of rock debris around our own planet. Two scientists Peter J. Fawcett, of the University of New Mexico, and Mark B.E. Boslough, of the U.S. Department of Energy's Sandia National Laboratories have suggested that "a geologically recent" collision (about 35 million years ago) may have caused such a temporary debris ring.

The two also suggest that such temporary rings lasting from 100,000 to a few millions of years may explain some patterns of climate change observed in the earth's geological record. These conclusions are spelled out in an article in the Journal of Geophysical Research, Atmospheres, August 16 edition.

[modest]

Hello Finchcliff.

I looked over your article and I have a couple questions if you don't mind.

1) How far do you propose the point of impact is to the exit point? 2) How long do you propose it took the meteor to make the trip from impact to exit?

~modest

[Turtle]

The Impact And Exit Event

Originally Posted by fishcrest

... Prepare to have all of your preconceptions about the history of our planet and our solar system uprooted by a bewildering array of irrefutable physical and visual evidence that the reader can, via the Internet witness personally, question and then debate with others. ...

i'd say bewildering is a gross misunderstatement. what i as a reader personally question & visualize via the internet is that i'm witness to 'if you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with b_llsh_t.'

so what i don't see at your link is a proposed date for your punch job and how you arrived at it. what date do you propose for your punch job and how did you arrive at it?