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Old 01-05-2008   #11 (permalink)
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Re: What Americans, USAans, yanks, beleive.

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You're right V-E-R-Y long and I do get tired of hearing it,
they started the campaigning earlier this time then last time and at this rate there won't be no break, can you imagine campaign commercials 365 24/7 for four years, they seem to have all the money they need.
Quick wake me up I believe I'm having a nightmare.
I like the long campaign trail. Make them jump through hoops I say. It should be a long and labored process. Every time I hear that a politician has been nonstop campaigning without sleep making multiple stops in multiple states for days - I get a bit of a grin.

I look at the Iowa, and other, caucuses like elimination rounds much like you'd see on a reality show. If only we could get Jeff Probst to host it and maybe throw in some humiliating reward challenges.


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What a liberal, liberated, free thinking country.

How come you don't vote for politicians to give you what you want?
We're slow? N.J. Governor Signs Death Penalty Ban Into Law - December 18, 2007 - The New York Sun

Many of us hate what we have, but most of the time, we're not really empowered to make any really changes. Like take for example, we all know, Constitutionally, a president cannot declare war... but... it happens and has been happening for ~40 years. How do you fight something like that? And the only politicians who call it like is are marginalized (Ron Paul) and people don't feel voting for them is worth it.

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Do you have to vote Green and forget the democrats and republicans?
Voting Green is seen as wasting your vote. If it was clear voting for the Green Party is actually a smart strategy, people would do it. And last midterm elections, people did (with victories, in some cases) on the local and state levels.


Overall, very positive thread.
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Hi Leila Night

Sounds about right to me...yup...

I say vote Libertarian! But as you know that's a lost cause

People don't really want a Govt. that will stay out of their business I guess.

There are just far too many bleeding hearts and deep pockets hell bent on destroying this democracy...and ushering in communism....Where those that "know what's best for us" decide how we will live and what we can do in our own lives.
To enforce "morality" at all costs
Making new laws to eliminate anything unsafe
to eliminate anything that may offend anyone
to ensure that all of the poor are equally poor and the wealthy few... gods (seeing as they obviously know what's best)
To protect us from ourselves
YOU WILL SUBMITT!
YOU WILL ASSIMILATE!!
BBOW TO YOUR NEW MASTERS!!

Man I hate republicans and pretty much everyone that supports them.

on a final note :

Bring back Mr. Clinton!!!!!!!! I'd vote for him a third time!!!!!


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America was forged on the spirits of patriot, pioneer, wild west and diversity. What that means is a disregard for stupid laws, a willingness to explore and look to the future, a sense of restlessness and self, and an attitude where any lifestyle is possible. For example, the drug laws are harsh in the US, but millions just ignore it. It is part of the duty of a patriot to resist oppression. It is sort of based on the Boston Tea Party, where high level policy in England was ignored using criminal activity. The British came down hard but lost the war. The drug war has been fought for decades and the Patriots don't give in. It sounds lawless, but it is part of the American spirit.

The pioneering spirit of America is not afraid to leave the stability of the past and present and head out into the wilderness looking for a brighter future. America is still the innovation capital of the world. Part of its pioneer spirit is connected to the gold rushes, where one takes a risk, with a dream, that they will find a vein of gold.

The diversity aspect of America results in pockets of everything. One can talk about America in terms of the mainstream average. But if you look a little deeper, one can find anything. America is not just a blend of almost all cultures, but also a blend of retro and cutting edge. From the wholesome to the perverted, from gifted to idiots. We got the entire spectrum.

The wild west is also a part of being an American. Often Americans are not perceived to be as cultured and refined as many European countries. In America there are many pockets culture and refinement. But there is also a restless wild west spirit. The constant barrage of products is needed because this restlessness makes things quickly boring, requiring a constant flux of change and variety. The various mafias are a problem but many people hold a place for them, deep down, since they are children of the wild west.

America was founding on religious freedom via Christian-Judeo. This is sort of one of sturdy bookends of America. The other bookend is in flux, driven by the American spirits of wild pioneering patriots. But if you add it all together Americans are a full diversity slanted toward the good side. It is still the most generous nation of all time. We even give other cultures things don't want, as they try to maintain there cultural pasts.

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THE national survey commissioned by the University of Sydney's United States Studies Centre is a unique and fascinating snapshot of Australian attitudes towards contemporary American institutions, society and culture. The survey reveals a surprising ambivalence about the US and a growing disconnect between Australian and American values which, if not reversed, spells trouble ahead for the special relationship.

More than 50 per cent of those surveyed expressed some dislike of Americans and their culture and there was a marked decline in support for US values and institutions. Only about a third had a "very" or "somewhat favourable" view of religion, race relations and social and economic equality in the US. Gun control, or the absence of it, was viewed as a major negative, reflecting the corrosive impact of the seemingly unending, graphic images of mall massacres and public shootings that are an unfortunate characteristic of modern American life.
Security fears if trust in the US keeps eroding | The Australian
You see no one told Australians that only 25% of you have guns and most want them locked up. (as against 5.2% (Wiki) of Australians who own guns -many are farmers who need to control feral animals etc))
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Angelica

I am in agreement with the majority on those opinions above except the last one.

I support capital punishment, but only when there is 'guilt' beyond an 'absolute' doubt for homicide, attempted homicide or 'implied' homicide.
Notice the word substitution. The word murder is an insult to our mothers(?)
Its the subliminal psychology here.

There are cases where 'guilt' beyond an absolute doubt do exist.
Our leniency on this issue is probably the reason why we have the highest crime rate in the world. Of course, that does not include the political and religious (purification) crimes committed in some countries.

Outlawing the 'recreation' drugs just keeps the drug lords in business and all the street peddlers that spread these drugs among the population.

The outlawing of prostitution is outlawing the Natural GOD's natural heterosexual sex that just creates more spousal homicides, rapes, pedophilia, homosexuals, lesbians and also contributes to more masterbations.
Does that make sense?

Our countries top leadership is addicted to dollars as our surrogate god that is a substitute for gold. Well, you can not eat gold although it is a remarkable metal that the chauvinists admire.

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Security fears if trust in the US keeps eroding | The Australian
You see no one told Australians that only 25% of you have guns and most want them locked up. (as against 5.2% (Wiki) of Australians who own guns -many are farmers who need to control feral animals etc))
I assure you that that figure is inaccurate...in my entire life I've never known a person (internet not included) that didn't own or been in a house where there wasn't at least a rifle for hunting . (Not everyone I know hunts though so some of the rifles are simply belonged to a relative that passed it down to them)

I own three a 50 cal rifle, a 32 special longrifle, and a sawed off 12 gauge (double barrel breech load), also a crossbow (my shoulders are too frigged up to use a conventional bow.)

Dad has a few as do all 4 of my uncles, countless cousins, and all of my friends and coworkers (or in some cases their husbands own them technicaly).


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I assure you that that figure is inaccurate...in my entire life I've never known a person (internet not included) that didn't own or been in a house where there wasn't at least a rifle for hunting . (Not everyone I know hunts though so some of the rifles are simply belonged to a relative that passed it down to them)
No one I know, more than an acquaintance, owns a firearm with the exception of 3 people; two who are bear guards in Alaska, and one who hunts.

My neighboring city has a law which *requires* homeowners to have a gun and ammo.

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No one I know, more than an acquaintance, owns a firearm
How are you defining "know?" As... you "know" several gun owners on this very site.
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Security fears if trust in the US keeps eroding | The Australian
You see no one told Australians that only 25% of you have guns and most want them locked up. (as against 5.2% (Wiki) of Australians who own guns -many are farmers who need to control feral animals etc))
(gun control)

That's what safetys are for!

I've got great gun control....I hit everything I aim them at!

Seriously though more guns equals a safer society.

Don't worry we still love you though Ya silly ausies!


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