No one blames over-population for our diminishing natural resources! WHY NOT?

[charles brough]

Hay Paigetheoracle, we all three are on the same side, aren't we? Perhaps we have worn this thread down now. It may be time to stop.

chas.

[Essay]

Originally Posted by charles brough

Hay Paigetheoracle, we all three are on the same side, aren't we? Perhaps we have worn this thread down now. It may be time to stop.

chas.

...stumbles into the room. "Oh no, just when I have a few minutes...."
{Hey, did you see? The election is over; we made it to this side of Nov. 4th.
...and as it turns out: YESBAMA!}

Sorry, I've been busy... Gobama.

My friends.... {hehe} ...but seriously....
There's more to say here, isn't there?

Can't we support about 9 billion people here, if we manage our resources very effectively, in a sustainable way?

That is the task before us (...speaking of Obama), unless you opt for the easy solution of radical population reduction (which I know is very likely, etc., but still doesn't have to be the guiding principle).

Maybe later I can add more, but for now there is this rough draft of a poem that may ...say something. [Thanks for the inspiration, Charlie Rose....]

CONTINUATION
Such a shame, to lose a brain...
in the course of evolution.
Funny how smart people see, what needs to be...
and limit their contribution.

Well I just had to say, to my friends on the way...
you have to contribute to the conflagration.

There's grandeur in the Big Picture,
despite what Nostradamus saw.

To waste how most among us may,
enjoin sublimity to the sea...

...we may lose some right new angle,
...or Angel of our... ...to Be....
(y'know ...Being).



~ later....

[paigetheoracle]

Originally Posted by Essay

...stumbles into the room. "Oh no, just when I have a few minutes...."
{Hey, did you see? The election is over; we made it to this side of Nov. 4th.
...and as it turns out: YESBAMA!}

Sorry, I've been busy... Gobama.

My friends.... {hehe} ...but seriously....
There's more to say here, isn't there?

Can't we support about 9 billion people here, if we manage our resources very effectively, in a sustainable way?

That is the task before us (...speaking of Obama), unless you opt for the easy solution of radical population reduction (which I know is very likely, etc., but still doesn't have to be the guiding principle).

Maybe later I can add more, but for now there is this rough draft of a poem that may ...say something. [Thanks for the inspiration, Charlie Rose....]

CONTINUATION
Such a shame, to lose a brain...
in the course of evolution.
Funny how smart people see, what needs to be...
and limit their contribution.

Well I just had to say, to my friends on the way...
you have to contribute to the conflagration.

There's grandeur in the Big Picture,
despite what Nostradamus saw.

To waste how some among us may,
enjoin sublimity to the sea,

...we may lose some right new angle,
...or Angel of our... ...to Be....
(y'know ...Being).



~ later....

Well it could be the hundredth monkey effect...um! (God only knows - that's especially for Charles; an in joke)

[paigetheoracle]

Originally Posted by charles brough

Hay Paigetheoracle, we all three are on the same side, aren't we? Perhaps we have worn this thread down now. It may be time to stop.

chas.

Yeh, it's like arguing with yourself most of the time, with you especially and Sym. is like knowing what he means but still arguing anyway because....

[carlton-temple]

May I be permitted to make a few demographic observations.
In general, the population of Europe remained as far as we know, pretty much stable up to the 1700 century, regardless of wars, plagues appalling hygiene and so on. Then for reasons unknown the population suddenly began to steadily increase, again regardless of the appalling sanitary conditions and there were as yet no important medical advances. Why? This population increase seems, so far as what records there were, to have been common all over Europe. One of the main sources showing this increase, at least in England, were church registers which in general (for tax purposes), were well kept. Much the same in France, tax and soldiers ! The present situation in Europe seems to be equally odd. Number one political problem in Russia is the falling population. Mongolia's population has dropped so dramatically that huge swathes of land have been hire to the Chinese. In France, were it not for large "breeding" allowances and immigration the problem would be equally desperate, Germany likewise, I believe, but am not sure, eastern Europe is in a similar situation. Scandinavia, on the other hand, has remained demographically stable for generations? Where I live in rural France the "resident" population, which is not unusual, is down to 7/kilometre!

[Symbology]

Originally Posted by carlton-temple

May I be permitted to make a few demographic observations.
In general, the population of Europe remained as far as we know, pretty much stable up to the 1700 century, regardless of wars, plagues appalling hygiene and so on. Then for reasons unknown the population suddenly began to steadily increase, again regardless of the appalling sanitary conditions and there were as yet no important medical advances. Why? This population increase seems, so far as what records there were, to have been common all over Europe. One of the main sources showing this increase, at least in England, were church registers which in general (for tax purposes), were well kept. Much the same in France, tax and soldiers ! The present situation in Europe seems to be equally odd. Number one political problem in Russia is the falling population. Mongolia's population has dropped so dramatically that huge swathes of land have been hire to the Chinese. In France, were it not for large "breeding" allowances and immigration the problem would be equally desperate, Germany likewise, I believe, but am not sure, eastern Europe is in a similar situation. Scandinavia, on the other hand, has remained demographically stable for generations? Where I live in rural France the "resident" population, which is not unusual, is down to 7/kilometre!

Assuming what you say is accurate, it sounds like it's time to migrate the overpopulated groups of the America's over there.

However from what I know it is still over populated in Great Britain.