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Published by C1ay 03-21-2005
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BlameTheEx
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03-22-2005
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| Re: Why colonize the Moon before going to Mars? Why go to ether? Until space flight is orders of magnitude cheaper, or space budgets orders of magnitude greater there is no hope of more than token visits to Mars. Worse there are unsolved, and possibly unsolvable problems for a mars expedition. Can we shield passengers from radiation? Can we protect them from bone loss? The mars rovers are doing an excellent job. If we wish we can send an awful lot of them to mars for the price of one manned mission. Science would be better served. We just don't know where (if anywhere) on mars that a breakthrough in understanding may occur. A single, or even a handful of manned missions may just land in uninteresting places. If ever there is a reason to send men to mars it will be AFTER a very special location is found. Anyway, this is all a political fantasy which will fade fast enough now that Bush is re-elected. If not it will fade VERY fast when the next president is elected and finds that the major budget allocations needed start in his presidency! Am I the only one who sees that Bush is setting up NASA for scrapping in the next presidency? Bush has not allocated enough cash for the preparation towards mars to progress without major cuts elsewhere in the space program. If after that the mars program is shelved there will be very little left. NASA will be left to justify the money spent in terms of the remaining cash strapped projects. It will be easy to argue that NASA is poor value for money and that it should be wound up. Any accountant could put a good case for transferring the remaining projects to private companies. |
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paultrr
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03-22-2005
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Yes, cost needs to be lowered. I know personally you will get no argument on that out of any of the guys at NASA even. Everyone recognizes that. But some of the cost issues arises out of supply and demand. The smaller the supply and demand generally with spacecraft and with propulsion the higher the cost. There's even examples of such in the auto industry where certain luxery cars tend to cost a whole lot more simply because not as many are demanded. There is also a certain amount of politics that keeps the cost of space exploration high. Its not as cut and dry as some like to picture it. One other reason actually goes back to politics. We got into space in a race with communism. At the current times China has set its sights on going to the moon. I believe that China at present is a communist nation still. They still tend to have military goals in mind in most that they do. Would one care to wake up in the near future and find say America with no presence on the Moon or elsewhere and China way ahead and in control of such. That is about the situation we may face if America does not move forward. The only real human presence we have at this time is with the ISS and that sits in too low of an orbit to serve as a decent space launch platform. Robots are good. But they are only good up to a point. There have been experiments conducted here on earth where humans will spot signs of life long before any robot can. It takes both to make a decent space program and it takes the human presence to learn to move off of this island we call earth. | |
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C1ay
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03-22-2005
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#5
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Stargazer
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05-04-2005
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| Re: Why colonize the Moon before going to Mars? Indeed, why go anywhere? Let's stay on this planet forever until disaster, or ourselves, strike and we are wiped out. Before that happens though, our civilisation will probably slow down in development and expansion. The benefits of space exploration and colonisation are many. The reason to go to the Moon before going to Mars is, in my view, that we get a chance to practice on longterm deep space missions. We will develop new technologies for life support systems and micrometeoroid shields and how to protect the crew from radition. Obviously space travel is expensive and difficult, but it wont get any cheaper or easier if we chose to sit around and wait for some miracle to happen. |
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#6
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Kirk Gregory Czuhai
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05-05-2005
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| who wants to almost with 100% certainty commit suicide by being the among the first to try to go to Mars? Even if the trip was successful, the astronauts probably would be exposed to so much radiation by the time they got back from their trip and on the planet that they would be full of gangreen by the time they got back! NASA, need another seven astronauts, would have another whole new dimension to the motto! a multi-billion dollar russian roullet mission with at least 5 live bullets in the 6 shooter! peace and love, and, love and peace, (kirk) kirk gregory czuhai ---> LOVES! http://BlueRoses.WS http://ChessClub.WS |
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#7
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Stargazer
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05-05-2005
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| Re: Why Die Going To Mars? The risks of space travel are there of course. But why would anyone go to Mars without good radiation shielding? The scientists and engineers know it's a problem, so obviously they will try to solve it as good as possible. Then there are other dangers as well, but as I see it, they can be overcome. There's no doubt that people will die in space, whether they live in low Earth orbit or while on a journey to Neptune. It happens with a lot of things we do. We've been travelling by boats and ships for a very long time, and yet it's still not 100% safe, because nothing is. It happens with aeroplanes and cars as well, and yet very few would want us to stop using those means of transportation. People who will travel to the other worlds should not do so without being as safe as possible, of course. I mean, we're talking about travelling through an environment that is extremely alien to us, that is, space. And we're going to do it to reach worlds that are vastly different from Earth. The margins are slim, not many things can be allowed to go wrong. That's why we have to take it in small steps, I think, to develop the right technologies to go even further. |
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