attack of real aliens

[Moontanman]

How would the world react if real malevolent aliens decided to attack or planet for their own. to then we would just be a particularly dangerous animal to be exterminated. who would the world turn to for protection?Would it be possible to defeat a superior force that would have limited resources due to the problems of distance in star travel?

Michael

[sanctus]

It would for sure have one good side, it would make stick together mankind instead of fighting amongst themselve....

[Zythryn]

Originally Posted by sanctus

It would for sure have one good side, it would make stick together mankind instead of fighting amongst themselve....

That would be nice. If it were truly superior in all ways (technology, cooperation, etc) I am afraid it would simply cause panic and mankind would splinter even more than it is now.

However, if they came all this way, I think they would simply wait it out as we seem to be doing a pretty good job of wiping ourselves out.

[Moontanman]

Originally Posted by Zythryn

That would be nice. If it were truly superior in all ways (technology, cooperation, etc) I am afraid it would simply cause panic and mankind would splinter even more than it is now.

However, if they came all this way, I think they would simply wait it out as we seem to be doing a pretty good job of wiping ourselves out.

Yeah, unfortunately that seems to be true but if aliens couldn't break any of the laws of nature as we know them it becomes an interesting thought exercise. At this point aliens could be amassing war materials somewhere in the solar system. You would have to assume they want the earth reletively unradioactive or other ruined for their use so how would they do it? I personally think bio-weapons would be the key but if we found out where they were I doubt if anyone could stop a barage of nukes. I know it sounds parinoid but if earth like planets are scarce then it becomes possible to think of aliens trying to take them away from their rightful inhabitants. maybe we should be on teh look out for laser communication within the solar system. It would be a good way to hide, radio would be too easy to detect. Oh well it's really a stupid argument I guess, as far we know we are the only aliens in existance. and you would really want a new planet bad to take the time to build up forces over intersteller distances.

Michael

[DougF]

I think they would sneak in (hide in the oceans) and just start to Terra form the planet too meet there needs ( raise co2 levels) once it was habitable to them (if this didn't kill us off) then we would be exterminated.

[TheFaithfulStone]

Interesting.

I thought "Footfall" was a pretty good example, all though it had to kind of set the aliens up to fail.

I think if they were massing war material within the inner solar system and not totally on the other side of the Sun, we'd probably figure it out pretty quick.

Now, if they only had a single space ship, and it wasn't THAT big, they might be able to sneak up on us.

Personally, I've always kind of doubted the whole scenario where we basically hold ourselves hostage. They could hit most of the nuclear launch facilities pretty quickly from orbit, and then we're pretty much helpless. Sub launched nukes probably don't contain enough cumulative radiation power to bake Earth but good.

Yet another reason to support space exploration. Cause it won't be long before someone puts guns up there, and frankly, we might end up needing them.

TFS

[DougF]

TheFaithfulStone
Interesting.

I think if they were massing war material within the inner solar system and not totally on the other side of the Sun, we'd probably figure it out pretty quick.

Now, if they only had a single space ship, and it wasn't THAT big, they might be able to sneak up on us.

Personally, I've always kind of doubted the whole scenario where we basically hold ourselves hostage. They could hit most of the nuclear launch facilities pretty quickly from orbit, and then we're pretty much helpless. Sub launched nukes probably don't contain enough cumulative radiation power to bake Earth but good.

Yet another reason to support space exploration. Cause it won't be long before someone puts guns up there, and frankly, we might end up needing them.

as much as we look into space I think your right.
I could see one sliding in unnoticed.
Most Nukes would be pretty easy for the "real malevolent aliensay" that decided to attack or planet (thay would just sit there and take target practice)

[Moontanman]

Originally Posted by DougF

as much as we look into space I think your right.
I could see one sliding in unnoticed.
Most Nukes would be pretty easy for the "real malevolent aliensay" that decided to attack or planet (thay would just sit there and take target practice)

If they used nukes on us they would be ruining the planet unless they were some kind of radioactive species which would mean earth wouldn't hold much attraction to them. If we found out they had a base on the earth it would be nuked immediatly. Most people don't know it but couldn't fire a nuke much above low earth orbit. A planetary probe would have to modified to send them a nuclear postcard. People have a very much grander idea of what we can do in space than what we can really do. We have done some really wild things lately but it took planning and manufacturing facilites that wouldn't be allowed to exist if we were attacted. One series of scifi books i liked was an alternate history where aleins attacted us in the middle of WW2 with advanced weapons like jets, smart bombs and nukes. I think it was seven books long.

michael

[DougF]

me
Most Nukes would be pretty easy for the "real malevolent aliensay" that decided to attack or planet (they would just sit there and take target practice)

what I was trying to imply was
If the "real malevolent aliensay" were to attack the World and we were to shoot Nukes at them I think it should be fairly easy for them ("real malevolent aliensay") to shoot the Nukes down, I mean they traveled all the way here so they must have near light speed technology (we would never hit them they could outrun the Nukes) and should be Abel to shoot them down. IMHO

[Megatron]

IMO, if aliens are going to invade Earth, they would probably use a combination of EMP and bio-weapons. EMP would cripple telecommunications and computer networks, and bio-warfare would wipe out large portions of our populations. Both these methods would not do any harm to the planet itself.

Then its just a matter of sending in soldiers equiped with superior weapons to mop up. Material for building their colony and powering it would not be that hard because there would be existing infrastructure that they could upgrade. The humans that survive could be used as an endless supply of cheap labor.


If they are intent on using heavy weaponry, there would be no need to scorch the entire Earth. First of all, we are assuming that they would be far more advanced then we are, so it is likely that our defenses would be totally ineffective. Just think back to when the Spanish invaded the Aztecs. Second, only a few nations are capable of posing any real threat to the invading force (Russia, China, USA), so they would only need to use their forces against North America, Europe, and Southeast Asia.

Either way, there would probably be some areas in which the aliens decide to leave autonomous, and it would take a few centuries before the aliens completely control the Earth. And then there would be opportunities to stimulate a new economy through trade and labor.

<EDIT> Missile defense against nukes would be easy. Just use a laser or a railgun to shoot them down.