lightspeed

[freeztar]

Originally Posted by goku

no really, if going fast makes you bigger then going slow would make you smaller.

Mass is not the same as size.

every action has an equal opposite reaction.

Indeed, but the way you are applying it here is incorrect.

the math part just doesn't work, you can't give a mathmatical value to something by picking a number between 1 and 100.

What value are you talking about?

if resistance is 5 and thrust is 6, 6 being greater than 5, then you acheave acceleration. the longer you can accelerate the greater your speed will become.

Yes, to a point. It is theoretically impossible to reach the speed of light.

after you break the photonic barrier things should smothe up nicely

Do you have proof of this? What do you mean by "smoothe up"?

of course the real problem will be running into stuff, the faster you go the worse the wrech will be

The real problem is that lightspeed is not possible, unless you are massless.

[Moontanman]

Amazing how gokus simple questions have been complicated into these posts. I say we just repeal the speed of light limit and go on with exploring the galaxy.

[goku]

Originally Posted by freeztar

Mass is not the same as size.

Indeed, but the way you are applying it here is incorrect.

What value are you talking about?


Yes, to a point. It is theoretically impossible to reach the speed of light.


Do you have proof of this? What do you mean by "smoothe up"?



The real problem is that lightspeed is not possible, unless you are massless.

it is amazing how you can swallow a huge camel (evolution) and get choked on a knat (lightspeed)

you can't magically start gaining mass, understand that superman is not real.

the shuttle gets lighter during takeoff because it is burning fuel to accelerate, it is looseing mass

no proof of course but then again, rudolf diesel had no proof of a diesel engine before he created it just a unique knowlege that it would work

[Moontanman]

Originally Posted by goku

it is amazing how you can swallow a huge camel (evolution) and get choked on a knat (lightspeed)

you can't magically start gaining mass, understand that superman is not real.

the shuttle gets lighter during takeoff because it is burning fuel to accelerate, it is looseing mass

no proof of course but then again, rudolf diesel had no proof of a diesel engine before he created it just a unique knowlege that it would work

Goku, every time I start thinking you really want to learn about reality you prove me wrong. We are being serious, trying our best to give you the information you need to understand the answers to your questions, please give us the same effort.

[DI5STURBED]

Goku,
First off when you said "you get fatter the faster you go.", what I think you meant to say is, "The faster an object or particle travels the more MASSIVE it becomes." At least in terms of its relativistic mass. We can show this through the simple equation, M=(gamma)m. This can be easily derived and would be a good exercise for you to do, to become more familiar with relativity and to prove to yourself that my statement is correct. In the equation presented M=relativistic mass, m=rest mass, (gamma)=1/[(1-(v^2/c^2))^(1/2)], v=velocity, and c=speed of light. With this we can show that the theory hold for what we see every day because, when v is small the (gamma) factor is approximately 1, which in turn makes the M approximately equal to m. A good start, now to show that when the object or particle travels at close to the speed of light but NOT the speed of light we can see that the (gamma) factor is going to increase M by a factor of approximately 2.35 if the v=.9c, which is a substantial amount. The final thing that we can prove from this equation is what happens to a particle or object travelling at the speed of light, (because in order to go faster you have to break the barrier of the speed of light.), If v=c we can see that the (gamma) factor is 1/0, and we all know that 1/0 is infinity. The problem with an infinite mass is that you need infinite energy to get to the velocity of light and infinite energy to maintain the velocity, to see it takes infinite energy use E=Mc^2. Where E=energy, M=relativistic mass, and c=speed of light. We have no know source of infinite energy, so it sounds like were out of luck on the front. As for your final question, I do not have a good answer for you except maybe that’s not the right question to be asking. Sometimes in science the question you ask makes all the difference.

[DI5STURBED]

Goku,
As for your proof, for the Theory of Relativity,thier is plenty of experimental evidence especially now adays that is completely consistent with the theory. Some of the proof is:
Perihelion precession of Mercury
Deflection of light by the Sun
Gravitational redshift of light
Post-Newtonian tests of gravity
Gravitational lensing
Light travel time delay testing
Gravitational redshift
Frame dragging tests
Gavity Probe B
(and many more)

but I think you should google search "Theory of Relativity Expeiment" and research it before you come to the conclusion thier is no evidence.

[modest]

A useful tool, I've found:

http://www.adamtoons.de/physics/relativity.swf

~modest

[freeztar]

Originally Posted by modest

A useful tool, I've found:

Awesome!

[goku]

Originally Posted by Moontanman

Goku, every time I start thinking you really want to learn about reality you prove me wrong. We are being serious, trying our best to give you the information you need to understand the answers to your questions, please give us the same effort.

reality?
maybe i dumded it down a little too much
my reality says one doesn't just start increaseing mass

i reckon if the particles of your thrust (exhuast gasses, or what ever) do not travel at or beyond light speed you may not acheive light speed

has anyone ever actually tried to go light speed?

[DI5STURBED]

Goku, all I have to say is research it you have the tools Google search it or go to a library. There is no point in a discussion if you will not look at the sources I listed or the mathematical proof I presented to you.

By the way we are trying to accelerate things to the speed of light but it takes allot of energy we are getting closer and closer to getting things close to the speed of light. The things we are doing this with are called particle accelerators and the reason we haven’t gotten things to the speed of light is because it takes infinite energy which I stated in a past post. Since it takes a huge amount of energy to just accelerate protons and electrons it is doubtful we have tried to accelerate a human to that speed.