Is Time Travel Possible?

[arkain101]

I had another dream on a bit of a physics theory.

There was a dream I had in the past where friends and I were outside, a string came down all vibrating and stuck to my friend and picked him up in the air. Everyone was yelling what the hell is it, and I told them its gravity. LOL, then I went and realised there is a string theory.. it was kind of wierd.

Anyhow. This theoretical dream that was related to time travel and grand unifying theory, led me to furthering the ideas.

So to kind of shoot the shit here, I am going to put it out there.

The universe is seen through out eyes in nearly infinite versions of time. Nothing appears as it is, since photon frequencies take time to pass distance. They do not however experience a time within themselves. They travel as they are untill something interacts with there velocity, like matter. A photon however does not appear to contain data, but only energy. Data is transfered in frequency of this energy, a mulptiple collection of on and offs of energy fronts. (not to unlike computer code).

Now to get more related to the time and idea. The universe is versions of energy. Both matter and energy are one. When something does not experience time, it is at what we call "C" and in high velocity motion. Where as things that appear to have time, that is they change, as (our consciousness interpration of time) time goes by. Matter changes over time and energy appears to not. The difference between these two is that they exist on different sides of of an equation or, chart, seperated by time, if that is explaind right. Energy appears to exist in a singularity dimension, a "ZERO TIME" scale of time and Because of this singularity, they function at C. Matter is outside of this singularity, and operates in a curve of the time medium relavent to its energy?

So if we were to draw a graph here showing time and where / how existence operates on its curve. It starts out flat as infinity, the basic rest version of time flow and slowly curves upwards untill reaching a perfectly vertical orientation. Light energy is drawn on the point of vertical, and versions of matter, are plotted along the curvature of the time in a 2d represenation like this.

The visual I had in the dream is that relative motion is not important and illusionary. All things are a placing of where they are in time bend.
So we can imagine in a 3D representation, the zero-point is the time in frozen singularity, anywhere outwards on this curve (like einstiens topolofy of gravity) is a version of time, which is directly related to its energy. As you drag an atom from the outside of the curve towards the center zero point, it will act in space as a speeding up atom, moving towards time singularity and eventually attempting to become what is light energy. But it cant happen like this because it must pass through a dimension of sorts to transform into the energy of singularity time flow.

Now I know how math can be a powerful tool, it would probably be able to show how to flow, on the opposite side, or opposite direction of this zero point. As to pass through it, to describe time travel.

I know far to little to calculate any of this theory but try to follow the best logic I can from what I've learned from other theories and what not. But, I tried to understand how gravity, and motion, and magnetism would be plotted in this to generate mass and force.
See in this idea, anything that is in change, is in time, and has what we call mass, where anything that is in the singularity proposaly has no mass. Gravity is in flow time, and may be drawn as a curve perpendicular to the time curve, also capable of reaching singularity, and tied into time.
motion and posisitioning is very hard to explain, things are where they are but are not really anywhere special in the universe that could be infinite.
magnatism could be plotted in here aswell.. but I really dont know where to begin.

So at the existence of a higher dimension, everything in space can be imagined as where it is posistioned on the scale from a center outwards. Where ever something is traveling it wants to go in a strait line. Its posistion in space is on which ring around the center it is placed on. This ring can be taken apart and calculated into a 3d space and whatever was on that ring can be posistioned in space in its designated area, which is nowhere important on a ring, no side, no middle. The movement of objects in space is not the motion around the ring (the ring means a designated point on the time curve, kinetic energy level), but the movement towards middle or falling out to outside of the zero-point to infinite point graph.
So when you travel in space you only feel a force when you accelerate, this is when you are climbing the (hill) graph towards the center, pushing into time. As your energy increases you are moving inwards towards singularity. So I suppose as you see an object moving away from you it is not moving away, but it is in a different time ring.
This is difficult on the mind to imagine.
But all that happens from our perspective, is a cycle of energy (matter or light) moving in a nice flow in a time curve, changing all the time, and cycling back and forth from matter to energy.
How one can explain the direction you are going in space.. If you were flying through space and got hit by a rock that was traveling faster than you and hit your ship in the backside. Both you and the rock are on different points of the graph because of different velocities, but were able to collide because they aligned into the same directin vector on the graph , is what I suppose. As if there is a strait line coming from the center outwards, when the two objects, the ship and rock, align into this strait line they are in the same posistion. (possibly.)

I will leave it there since its getting a litte complicated and too much guess work. anyhow.

What sparked this idea was realising that matter is not forever, it always changes, and can dissapear and leave behind its existence in light form, where it can be cycled back through and interpreted by intelligence to see what happened. Light remains as it is untill caught up in a bend of time flow, and matter changes constantly as it is in the bend of time. That which is plotted on a point in the curve has mass and its inertia is from jumping up the rings of time so to speak.

[niin]

Originally Posted by Jerry Chiappetta, Jr.

Can anyone prove that time travel is not possible?

What is time?
Time is not a physical thing.
Time is relative movement.
If everything stop moving....time would stop.
normaly, movement follow the laws of nature.
If you release a ball over the ground...it will fall down.
If you could somehow get it back up (like picking it up), then time would not have gone backwards for it. The rest of the world have moved to.
To "truly" travel in time you would have to "control" everything that exist.
As that is not possible....you cant travel in time.

I think that clears it up

[InfiniteNow]

Originally Posted by Jerry Chiappetta, Jr.

Can anyone prove that time travel is not possible?

This is a common approach to questions, most often in the Theology threads, however, quite simply one cannot prove that something does not exist.


Cheers. :cup


EDIT: I'm wrong. Please see below.

[niin]

Originally Posted by InfiniteNow

quite simply one cannot prove that something does not exist.

I can prove that people that eat iron balls the size of the moon does not exist.
I compare the size of each and say...the ball is to big for people to eat.

So it is possible to "prove" that something does not exist.

Did i overlook anything?

[InfiniteNow]

I hereby retract my previous statement. It seems I was quite wrong.

http://www.skepticfiles.org/skeptic/megativs.htm

The most cursory of glances is sufficient to establish that there
is no elephant in my bedroom and the same glance proves that
there is a bed in the room. Slightly more rigorous inspection
ascertains the nonexistence of a starlet in my bedroom. It might
be quite arduous to show that there are no ants in the room, but
it could be done. Indeed, it might be just as difficult to show
that there _are_ ants in the bedroom; it is possible that neither
the negative nor the affirmative claim may be resolved until
examination of that last cubic inch is complete. These simple
and direct (unproblematic) cases of proving nonexistence contain
some extremely important points.

[Pyrotex]

Originally Posted by niin

What is time?
Time is not a physical thing....

Excellent argument!! I wish I had thought of that!! Hats off to you, Niin.

[Racoon]

Originally Posted by Pyrotex

Excellent argument!! I wish I had thought of that!! Hats off to you, Niin.

What do mean you hadn't thought of that?
I think its about time we discuss what time is!

[arkain101]

I think he was being saaarcastic.

Time is the loop that existence appears to fluctuate around.

Lets imagine the universe was at one time nothing, without a fleck of intelligence. how the frick did time come to be, if nothing could of thought of it.. could physics laws really outdate intelligence?

Words of the wise, if there is a dimension that we reside in, our dimension could as easily reside in a dimension.

[docbill]

Originally Posted by Jerry Chiappetta, Jr.

Is time travel possible? In my recently released song; STUCK IN BETWEEN I think it's safe to say that I for one believe. Can anyone prove that time travel is not possible? Will check for your comment / reply.
Jerry Chiappetta, Jr., Performing Artist / Songwriter - Naples, Florida

Yes, time travel is possible. With 100% certainty into the future. There is a chance it is also possible into the past, but most likely only prior to the big bang...

Bill

[arkain101]

I thought you might like to read a topic here under the title of Time travel and the baggage.

The baggage being the apparently inevidble logic that comes with the claims of a few versions of time travel ideas.

So, I will paste it in.

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Up to now time travel or time warps are theoretical suggestions of theoretical concepts.

Before working out the calculations and the validity of such a far stretched idea, there are some versions of baggage that come with this idea or claim.

There are catagories of time travel.

First, Can a person travel faster and live longer than his twin? Which is also saying age slower than his twin by temporaraly stretching the time in his own reference frame.

Second, Can a person travel to an event in time of the future that come to be or a place in the past that has been?

The first catagory states no traveling in time has occured but rather a change in the flow of time for the obsever that causes nothing more than things that measure time to measure time at a different rate, but when all is said and done you return to the same point only less aged.

The second catagor is traveling through time as if to imagine time as a never ending video tape and we can hop along its points and slip into the movie.

The first only warps and is not an actual 'time travel' the second is really time travel, and will explain why this is.

The baggage that comes with actual time travel. If we state we can travel to an event in the past, or travel to an event in the future we end up with a peice of baggage to deal with and when we open it we see this question insdie. Where is the matter, the energy, the information stored that contains the past and contains the future if it is possible for us to go to it/bring it to us, where is it coming from? Is Time is intelligent? Can it have a memory bank to hold all the events in history so one is able to travel to places in this time? Or is this just hogwash, time is a relative infinite now and does not pass here nor there or come from here nor there.
baggage is, Fact, in order to time travel, all of time must be stored somewhere, somehow.

The next question to ask is, If this is all possible where is all the history of time stored? What intelligence stores this information? Or can a dimnension store information? What is it?

Learning the answer to what holds the information may just be more important than learning how to time travel.

When we look at time flow change, we can see that one can not move to the past nor the future, but can affect the Now. Since you can not jump ahead in this method, you dont have to deal with storing information. Instead of jumping ahead you would experience the now around you faster so you would get to next week (on earth, after traveling in space) sooner, and no jumping or branching of time happens.

And one last time, time travel, jumps. It requires the now to have been recorded, stored, memory banked or it can not be gotten to, or retrieved.

So, We have some versions of time, some versions of time travel, and some versions of baggage (facts to deal with) from each one.

I say, if you believe time travel is possible you have stated everything is store by some amazing amazing memory bank!!

If you dont, I suppose everything is just infinite creation.

What do all say? Must history be stored to travel in time? What could store it?
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I was thinking about this today in the shower. It occured to me that either way explains the same thing.

If there really is a way to time travel, and jump to the future or past, then, everything must be stored in some kind of form of intelligence. But, if you are also a person that considers the idea of time traveling causeing the creation of a new parrallel dimension, this creation requires intelligence or a resource aswell.

But if we argue against time travel all together, and consider there is no 'recording effect' of the past and there is no 'playing effect' of from the future, then all there is, is a constant creation of Now, of time unrelated infinity. We must consider the past and the future to not exist, but there is only a source of creation, all moments, all things are in this constant never ending, moment to moment creation.

So we look at both examples and we get intelligence memory (for time working time travel) creator and intelligence source (for new parralell dimension), and creator and resource of energy (for infinite creation in no time travel). Does this logic flow with anyone else? I find these thoughts so amazing and rather new from anything I've ever heard.

This then went to some further considerations. If time travel is not possible (which is what I am coming to believe [time travel, not time flow warping]), then we have this flow of creation. In nature we look at the study of physics and we have found light is a constant velocity. There are constants in the quantum physics realm and etc. These constants can not be broken according to relativity. Information or data can not exceed the speed of light, even though scientists are learning to manipulate the wave functions of a light wave.
So we apply all this evidence to a constant infinite creation of the NOW theory, and logically it makes sense. If you are, and everything is a manifestation of the now, then a constants will be the product of such a world.
I say this because, if true, you can not change the flow at which things are created with a constant of manifestation, that does not go into the past nor come from a future, it comes from a source but is only an experience of infinity, locked in a realm with constants that can not be broken, and all things material are locked in what seems like time because of this.

What is the creation, what is the source, what is the constant, what is the intelligence, and what is the force?

It seems logical it all aims towards what a god is described as. Like a father containment, a source of infinity that ingulfs alll.