[Gardamorg]

This shuttle is a shuttle that could be used in the not so distant future. It goes at a fraction the speed of light.











This shuttle is propelled by magnetic winds when the mass entrained magnetic field unkinks.

Just so you know, a worm hole is a long distance, curved into a short distance. And according to the big bang theory, this would work.


This is what happens inside the reactor that produces the giant quantities of energy needed to create the magnetic fields.




Now there might be some flaws, because I'm just an eighth grader, and I'm just coming up with ways to go fast.

Oh and its a microscopic worm hole, and in the not so distant future I think that we can come up with a way to open them up.

The energy released from unkinking a microscopic worm hole is used to create a bigger one to unkink to produce more energy, on and on until there is a big enough worm hole to enough curved space time to produce enough energy to power millions of mass entrained magnetic fields, and millions of 3 megaton missiles.


Since the shuttle is going so fast when the second missile is fired, the missile just detonates earlier. The shuttle has one hundred 700 megaton missiles that each use the collisions of small anti matter and matter particles to unkink the curved space time in a microscopic worm hole. 50 missiles for the trip around hundreds of solar systems, and 50 for the trip back. Encase of a catastrophe, the ship has the supplies for the cyborgs to create a couple more missiles.

Even though the ship doesn't fire a missile once in a short amount of time, the ship still accelerates, because after the first mass ejection the ship doesn't slow down that quickly.

Some of the energy might be going in the wrong direction, but most of it is going in the right direction, which still propels the shuttle at astronomical speeds.

This shuttle is meant to hold 50 cyborgs, and every piece of a factory, the cyborgs, build more of each other, and colonize planets.

The cyborgs are programed to build and converse through pictures (encase of a civilized alien life form)

These cyborgs can be very unpleasant, they sometimes have a mind of their own, which is needed in order to colonize planets. They are nick named, the Aggressive Cyborgs.

Their appearance is quite scary. Picture the first version of the Terminator, but with a longer neck, and brighter eyes, and longer arms for carrying and supporting more weight.

[silverslith]

Oh you Americans and your obsession with nukiller bombs and your primitive colonialist urges.

Have you considered how much of your nuclear energy is wasted with most going the wrong way and how much energy is needed to re-erect your magfield and how many missiles you'd need to accelerate for a month or more and slow down for a simular time and how much energy to accelerate and deccelerate the remaining missiles and that bombs only release tiny percentages of the nuclear energy in their fissionables?

[Gardamorg]

Just so you know, a worm hole is a long distance, curved into a short distance. And according to the big bang theory, this would work.


This is what happens inside the reactor that produces the giant quantities of energy needed to create the magnetic fields.




Now there might be some flaws, because I'm just an eighth grader, and I'm just coming up with ways to go fast.

Oh and its a microscopic worm hole, and in the not so distant future I think that we can come up with a way to open them up.


Since the shuttle is going so fast when the second missile is fired, the missile just detonates earlier. The shuttle has one hundred 700 megaton missiles that each use the collisions of small anti matter and matter particles to unkink the curved space time in a microscopic worm hole. 50 missiles for the trip around multiple solar systems, and 50 for the trip back. Encase of a catastrophe, the ship has the supplies for the cyborgs to create a couple more missiles.

Even though the ship doesn't fire a missile once in a short amount of time, the ship still accelerates, because after the first mass ejection the ship doesn't slow down that quickly.

Some of the energy might be going in the wrong direction, but most of it is going in the right direction, which still propels the shuttle at astronomical speeds.

[CraigD]

Originally Posted by Gardamorg

[(contained in image)]This is a giant rocket propelled moving electronically charged space shuttle, that produces a massive and powerful entrained coronal magnetic field that bounces back when hit. The magnetic field is so powerful, that it bounces back with more force than is put into it.

Before a proposed design such as this can be considered scientifically, it must be described correctly. I think Gardamorg’s description is not precisely what he intended to communicate.

Many everyday objects bounce back with more force than is put into (applied to) them. For example, a 1 kg soft rubber ball dropped from waist height (about 1 m) experiences a force due to gravity of about 10 N for most of its (about .45 s) downward travel, then a force exceeding roughtly 4000 N during an interval of about .002 s as it deforms (about .005 m) and bounces back.

What Gardamorg intended to say, I think, is that the spacecraft’s magnetic field (and the spacecraft along with it) bounces back from the impact of particles from a nuclear explosion with more energy (or work) than is put into it by the particles.

With the exception of some very strange effects requiring very specific conditions not produced by magnetic fields or nuclear explosions (in particular, the Casimir effect]), it’s impossible according to any accepted scientific theory for such a thing to happen. So the proposed spacecraft is essentially a variation of Nuclear pulse propulsion. In principle, such a system could be slightly more efficient than the mechanical systems of designs such as Orion and Medusa, but only slightly. The theoretical maximum speed () of a hydrogen fusion bomb-powered Orion spacecraft is about 10% the speed of light (.1 c).

There are other inaccuracies in the design description of the Explorer Shuttle, but given the preceding, I don’t think they need be examined to determine that the design’s goals aren’t feasible.

[Gardamorg]

Like I said, I'm only in 8th grade, so my description isn't completely scientifically correct. But the magnetic field bouncing back can be calculated by older and more experienced people such as CraigD.

So if the only thing that would work would be something essentially similar to the nuclear pulse propulsion, then what would it be? Would there still be something similar to a powerful entrained magnetic field, that even though isn't the same, can still bounce back with a little more force than is put into it? If so, what would it be? And if it propels the ship slightly faster than 10% the speed of light, how many miles per second would it go? (No need to be exact)

[Jay-qu]

Originally Posted by Gardamorg

Like I said, I'm only in 8th grade, so my description isn't completely scientifically correct. But the magnetic field bouncing back can be calculated by older and more experienced people such as CraigD.


Did you say that my shuttle would go at 10% the speed of light?

No, he said:

The theoretical maximum speed () of a hydrogen fusion bomb-powered Orion spacecraft is about 10% the speed of light (.1 c).

This doesnt use magnetic fields, just explosions as propulsion.

[Gardamorg]

So why wouldn't the magnetic field work? (I can understand what you say, I'm a fairly smart 8th grader.)

[Gardamorg]

Originally Posted by Jay-qu

No, he said:



This doesnt use magnetic fields, just explosions as propulsion.

Sorry for the double post.

Oh, so he said that my shuttle would go slightly faster?

[CraigD]

Originally Posted by Gardamorg

So why wouldn't the magnetic field work?

There are at least a couple of reasons why an old-fashioned (if something that was never actually built back in the 1950s and 60s can be called that), mechanical pusher plate/shock absorber system might be better than a magnetic field to perform a similar role.

• Energy cost to maintain and operate.
  • Generating a magnetic field requires a large electric current. Unless the current is carried completely in superconducting material – and there are unsolved problems about how to do this while generating a strong magnetic field – this can require a lot of power
  • A mechanical plate and shock-absorber system has practically no energy needs, beyond a few pumps to circulate and disperse lubricants and anti-ablatives.
• Particles blocked
  • A thick aluminum or steel plate stops nearly all of the particles produced by an atomic explosion
  • A magnetic field deflects only charged particles. Photons and un-ionized matter will pass through it completely unaffected.
  Project Orion designers realized early on that the nuclear explosions had to be pretty “dirty” to be usable. A “pure” fission or fusion bomb releases most of its energy in the form of photons, which do much more to heat an ablate a pusher plate than apply force to it. So, to be usable, the bomb must be encased in matter that absorbs the photons and explodes as matter fragments better suited to pushing the plate. Orion designs considered using everything from specially constructed plastic shells to garbage and sewage in this role.

Advantages that a magnetic field might have over a mechanical pusher plate include:

• Mass - The generating mechanism for a magnetic field might mass less than a thick plate and complicated shock absorber machinery.
  Given that nuclear magnetic pulse rockets can be theoretically more efficient as their mass increases, however, reduced mass may not be very useful.
• Size – A magnetic field may potentially be much larger than a pusher plate – hundreds or thousands of meters in diameter rather than tens – allowing it to “catch” more of the nuclear explosion.
  Mechanical systems like the Medusa, however, illustrate design alternatives in which a much less massive mechanical design can catch a large fraction of the explosion, possible as much or more as the best designed magnetic field

Originally Posted by Gardamorg

(I can understand what you say, I'm a fairly smart 8th grader.)

I’m confident you can.

I recommend you read all you can about the Orion and other nuclear pulse rocket projects – the wikipedia articles linked above are good starting places, with lots of good links to both non-fiction and fictional descriptions of these systems ideas, details, and histories. Hypography’s own collaborative design & fiction project, the interplanetary ship Prophesy, is a nuclear pulse rocket (a “next generation” design, with very small fusion explosives detonated by external devices, rather than in the form or self-contained bombs), and is discussed many places in the Space forum (including some gorgeous CGI).

Also, a thorough understanding of basic physics – the mathematical description of time, distance, mass, velocity, acceleration, force, work, etc. – is, I think, essential to a good understanding of spaceflight and spacecraft design. It’s conventional, book/school learning (though it can be learned from unconventional, internetty sources), but forms the foundation on which most of this sort of engineering science is built. It requires proficiency in algebra, another essential basic science skill. Both are appropriate learnings for (and usually available in school to) a fairly smart 14-year-old.

[Gardamorg]

This shock absorber, its similar to my earlier design of The Explorer.


Shock absorber, I'll study that and everything else that, you mentioned.


In all honesty, do you think that I could come up with something more efficient than a shock absorber?