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cool, should be interesting. I could see how in your last post you where trying to encourage others to join in by asking them questions about their parts of the mission clever.

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Though I am not a relegious person and far from beleiving in god - I like the connotations of a 'gods eye view' of the universe. God's Eye's it is - the s is because its an array


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Well, hope that didn't screw it up too bad. I think the bump BD felt may have had something to do with the engines. Which if they fire 30 times per second should produce (I think) a low b-flat. Anyway - 60 cycle hum is b-flat below high c, and I think 30 hertz should be near the bottom of the human hearing range - or at least our discrimination range.

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[QUOTE=Janus]The thing is that this won't result in any net gain of speed. Sure, you'll gain speed as fall in towards the Earth, but you'll lose it again as you climb back out....QUOTE]
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if this were true, then NO gravity slingshots would work. At any planet, the same would apply--gain speed as fall in, lose it as you climb out.

Now, I could be wrong, but my understanding of grav-slings is that as the vehicle passes by the planet (closest approach, highest speed), an additional engine burn is made, adding a small delta-V. The effect is that the time the vehicle spends on the outward leg is much smaller than the time spent on the inward leg. Since the amount of speed added/lost by falling in/out of the gravity well is an integral function over time, if the time in equals time out, then there is no net gain in speed. The additional delta-V reduces the time spent on the climb out of the gravity well, such that far less speed is lost outbound than was gained inbound.

Alternate argument: Cassini and Galileo spacecraft both used Earth as grav-slings. So we know it works. Now, the origin of the spacecraft (is it coming from Venus? Is it coming from the Moon?) is immaterial. All that matters is the alignment of the incoming trajectory relative to the Earth's vector in the Earth's orbit. The vehicle must come "from behind" the Earth (in its orbit) and pass on the outward side of the Earth.


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Whats with the bump? I do not wanna spoil the plot here, but cant think of a way not to...


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Whats with the bump? I do not wanna spoil the plot here, but cant think of a way not to...
Doesn't have to be ONE thing. Remember, a malfunction big enough to go BUMP may cause other malfunctions.. Or itself be caused by a predecessor malfunction.


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Doesn't have to be ONE thing. Remember, a malfunction big enough to go BUMP may cause other malfunctions.. Or itself be caused by a predecessor malfunction.
Yup. I've created a big malfuntion on one of the machines...


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Are we to reveal what we're plotting in this thread?

Maybe we should.

Just to hint: The crawlers transmit an unencrypted 802.11a signal... it wouldn't be difficult at all to spoof it...

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I hope to god I am not in ring 1... Which rings are hab rings again? It is important to know where I am in all of this.


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I hope to god I am not in ring 1... Which rings are hab rings again? It is important to know where I am in all of this.
All habs are in rings 2 and 3. Ring 1 (aft) and 4 (forward) contain most of the special "working" modules, labs, control rooms, sensor displays, internal utilities control. All rings have at least 2 garden modules, but most of these are in rings 2 and 3.


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