[rudeonline]

There it come's....

Society for Popular Astronomy :: View topic - Consciousness, the edge of the universe?

[freeztar]

I looked at that link and read through the discussion from where you linked to until the end of the thread. I couldn't make much sense of what you were saying, but Quasar seems to have summed it up nicely in his last post. Correct?

Originally Posted by Quasar (from link posted above)

As we move forward through spacetime, the dimension we do not see, the photons cannot move with us through that spacetime and are left behind. The photon has no mass and so cannot be dragged along with us through spacetime. We are moving into the future at 300,000kms but not onto 3 dimensional space at that speed. The photon gets left behind in 3 dimensional space because it cannot move in 4 dimensional terms, it has no mass. When we see light coming from stars we are collecting stationary photons left by other matter that has moved on in time. The light isn't travelling to us we are collecting it.
This model has Einstein in reverse. If you travel at light speed then you will be left in our past along with the photons.

It's quite an interesting philosophical view of the universe and time. I'm curious, why do you introduce consciousness? It seems that any matter with mass would travel through time this way, conscious or not.

I like the creativity behind these ideas and it certainly tickles my philosophical mind. Nonetheless, scientifically, it has holes. The most general of these being that there's no way to empirically test these ideas. Also, you provide no mathematical proof.

I still really like this though.

[Boerseun]

Originally Posted by rudeonline

I would say that the big bang is also an absolute zeropoint in the universe.

Actually, this is completely wrong.

Each and every single spot in the universe is the exact spot where the Big Bang happened.

Because not only matter, but space itself, was wound up in the singularity from whence the universe unfolded.

There is no such thing as an absolute point in space, all frames of reference are relative.

I understand what you've got in mind with your "now" being the order of the universe, and you might be right - but not in the sense that light is stationary, as you suppose. Light always moves at 300,000km/h, regardless of the observer's relative velocity. "Now" might be the border of the universe in the sense that we're living in a four-dimensional hypersphere that's been unfolding ever since the big bang, and the moment "now" is simply you experiencing it, the interface of the fourth dimension cutting through the 3 dimensions we can see.

I read your blog entry on Volkskrantblog. And by dragging spirituality into it, you've got the cat completely by the tail, unfortunately.

But an interesting idea, nonetheless.

[rudeonline]

Originally Posted by Boerseun

Actually, this is completely wrong.

Each and every single spot in the universe is the exact spot where the Big Bang happened.

Because not only matter, but space itself, was wound up in the singularity from whence the universe unfolded.

There is no such thing as an absolute point in space, all frames of reference are relative.

I understand what you've got in mind with your "now" being the order of the universe, and you might be right - but not in the sense that light is stationary, as you suppose. Light always moves at 300,000km/h, regardless of the observer's relative velocity. "Now" might be the border of the universe in the sense that we're living in a four-dimensional hypersphere that's been unfolding ever since the big bang, and the moment "now" is simply you experiencing it, the interface of the fourth dimension cutting through the 3 dimensions we can see.

I read your blog entry on Volkskrantblog. And by dragging spirituality into it, you've got the cat completely by the tail, unfortunately.

But an interesting idea, nonetheless.

I like to continue the discussion here..

http://hypography.com/forums/physics...-new-post.html


There we talk more about science and not only philosofy..