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Car of the future: No Fuel, unlimited range.

Check this out guys, go-n-motion.com. Is this anywhere near remotely possible? I mean a vehicle that runs on no gas…AT ALL..so like what’s it gonna run on? Creativity and imagination is great but there is a limit somewhere.

Is it anywhere near doable?

[kalesh]

Originally Posted by public_folder

Car of the future: No Fuel, unlimited range.

Check this out guys, go-n-motion.com. Is this anywhere near remotely possible? I mean a vehicle that runs on no gas…AT ALL..so like what’s it gonna run on? Creativity and imagination is great but there is a limit somewhere.

Is it anywhere near doable?

Yes its certainly doable. Now I do not know whether it can be done using their so called "unstoppable forward momentum" but it certainly can be done.

Reason? because it has been done.!!

check this out.
Fuelless Engine
This one certainly works as I have purchased the plans and built it. (It works at lower power than stated, and I'm getting some parts custom made so its power can be increased.) Although it isn't fitted in a car I don't see why someone can't just scale it to the energy requirement of a car, truck, plane, whatever.

Also check this out
Perendev Motor
I can't vouch for this one as the price tag of 38000 euro is out of my league, but they have been around for some time and if it wasn't workable someone would have brought it up by now. Once again its too big to fit in a car but I can't see why it can't be scaled down.

[Buffy]

This is either a joke site or it is an elaborate scam:

Originally Posted by go-n-motion Web site

All of this takes a boatload of money because there is going to have be some new technology that has to be made. That’s where you can help us, with your membership and or donation we can start to get things done. As a startup company, we are in need of a lot of things. A place to build the car, people to build it, computers and software, tools and materials, testing equipment, and a whole host of other things.

If anyone is stupid enough to send the guy money when they have nothing but a cool Flash site, well, more power to him! Its pretty clear from reading what little content there is there that the guy--Kevin Pandil--knows absolutely nothing about physics, and sees creating a "perpetual motion machine"--which he thankfully disclaims as being impossible, just that he think he can get really close by "taking advantage" of the unstoppable power of momentum--as a mere implementation detail...

A foole and his money are soon parted,
Buffy

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Originally Posted by kalesh

Yes its certainly doable. Now I do not know whether it can be done using their so called "unstoppable forward momentum" but it certainly can be done.

Reason? because it has been done.!!

So seriously, a fuel-less, unlimited range car is a definite possibility? So like the site is not a hoax or anything?

[kalesh]

Originally Posted by public_folder

So seriously, a fuel-less, unlimited range car is a definite possibility? So like the site is not a hoax or anything?

I am not sure if the site is a hoax or not. But I do know that with enough dedication, funding, and an open mind it can be done.

[pgrmdave]

The site is created by somebody who doesn't really understand the laws of physics. Don't waste your money or your time on it.

If it seems too good to be true, it probably is.

[Buffy]

Originally Posted by kalesh

Reason? because it has been done.!! check this out.
Fuelless Engine

Uh, it

appears to run on *batteries*

, so calling it "Fuelless" is strictly true, but would require quite a bit of energy input, so its hardly "free!"

Have you run any computations to show what your battery consumption to power output ratio is?

Originally Posted by kalesh

Also check this out
Perendev Motor
I can't vouch for this one as the price tag of 38000 euro is out of my league, but they have been around for some time and if it wasn't workable someone would have brought it up by now. Once again its too big to fit in a car but I can't see why it can't be scaled down.

These guys (two of them, one is just the "legal" guy), have a site where you can *order* the engine, but elsewhere they say they need funding in order to build a prototype.

Now, I have a *working* perpetual motion machine (that I will--like Perendev--only lease, not sell to you), for only 20,000 euros and I can deliver it to you next week! Just make your cashier's check payable to "Cash" and send it to "Buffy c/o Hypography, Oslo Norway" where Tormod will launder, er, forward it to me.

Unbelievably high performance from unbelievable minds,
Buffy

[pgrmdave]

I am not sure if the site is a hoax or not. But I do know that with enough dedication, funding, and an open mind it can be done.

This is a powerful misconception. Hard work will never let you break the laws of physics, merely bend them to your will. You will never get more energy out than you put in. You will never even be able to break completely even. That is why perpetual motion does not occur - all useful work has an efficiency of less than 100%, and cannot be more than 100% efficient.

[kalesh]

Originally Posted by Buffy

Uh, it appears to run on *batteries*, so calling it "Fuelless" is strictly true, but would require quite a bit of energy input, so its hardly "free!"

Have you run any computations to show what your battery consumption to power output ratio is?

I use a 12 volt battery, and have kept it running for 48 hours continuous with two 60 watt 240V light bulbs as load, at end of 48 hours battery is at 90% charge........ That should let you draw your own conclusion.

It can even be rewired so you can remove the battery once its running. (it doesn't tell that but I have done it and it continues to run after battery is removed.

Originally Posted by pgrmdave

This is a powerful misconception. Hard work will never let you break the laws of physics, merely bend them to your will. You will never get more energy out than you put in. You will never even be able to break completely even. That is why perpetual motion does not occur - all useful work has an efficiency of less than 100%, and cannot be more than 100% efficient.

Can you explain the working of the fuelless engine? I know it works because I have it.

[Buffy]

Originally Posted by kalesh

I use a 12 volt battery, and have kept it running for 48 hours continuous with two 60 watt 240V light bulbs as load, at end of 48 hours battery is at 90% charge........ That should let you draw your own conclusion.

I'll admit that electronics is a weak area for me, but I do know you haven't provided anywhere near enough information here: we need to know the amp-hour rating for the battery and its amp output and I believe there will be a difference if your bulbs are rigged serial or parallel.

Originally Posted by kalesh

It can even be rewired so you can remove the battery once its running. (it doesn't tell that but I have done it and it continues to run after battery is removed. Can you explain the working of the fuelless engine? I know it works because I have it.

It looked like from the video I saw that it has a flywheel in it, so yes, its working off of momentum, but that won't help, because you use the juice up front getting the flywheel to go at all. Once it's going, you could unhook the battery, but friction will eventually slow it down. If it has "capacitors" in it, you need to know that capacitors are simply batteries, so you'd just be transfering the electric power from the batteries to the capacitor.

There is no Naked Lunch,
Buffy