stone slab which is 120 million years covered with the relief map of Ural Region

[jason200669]

Originally Posted by Thunderbird

If you are sincerely curious about archeology.. study archeology.

Nope, not curious about archeology, the unknown and posibilities.. very curious

[jason200669]

Originally Posted by Moontanman

That is why I was unimpressed, I've seen many stories of unusual stuff coming from out lying areas of the world especially the vast empty areas of Asia, everything from crashed alien space craft to living Neanderthals and so far they have all been BS. With out a lot more documentation I remain unimpressed...... and I think rightly so, less than mature or not. As for how many times a civilization equal to ours could have been on this earth only to be lost forever? None at all, we will be obviously detectable for many millions of years after we are gone. We create far too many high tech products that simply do not go away in any thing other than geologic time.

Fair enough, although i dont agree completly with your line of thinking i understand it.
It may take millions of years to completly remove all trace of us but how long to remove all but the gound up plastics?
We only inhabit a tiny percentage of this planet and with rising sea levels and other geological events that happen over long periods (or sometimes short) it wouldnt be hard to look for years and never come across anything at all.
I wouldnt be surprised if in less than 50thousand years after man had died out you could walk across an area like London and see no trace of it what-so-ever.

[freeztar]

Originally Posted by jason200669

I wouldnt be surprised if in less than 50thousand years after man had died out you could walk across an area like London and see no trace of it what-so-ever.

The next book on my book list is "The World Without Us", which deals with this topic. Have a look at the website if you are interested.

The World Without Us - Alan Weisman

[Thunderbird]

If you are sincerely curious about archeology.. study archeology

Originally Posted by jason200669

Nope, not curious about archeology, the unknown and posibilities.. very curious

If you happen to become aware of a new discovery concerning man’s past it will be because of work done in the field of archeology. I'm afraid however you will never be able to differentiate between what is the newly discovered from what is recorded as history if you are not interested in any thing known up to said discovery . New discoveries can only be recognized in the context of the known. Otherwise they mean nothing to those not interested.

What you are saying……. if I am to take you’re post literally, is that you’re not interested in knowing anything that anybody tells you about a subject they have prior knowledge of before yourself. Is that correct if not please explain?

[Moontanman]

Originally Posted by freeztar

The next book on my book list is "The World Without Us", which deals with this topic. Have a look at the website if you are interested.

The World Without Us - Alan Weisman

I will try to pick that one up too, I have no doubt that 50,000 years from now you could walk across what was London and see nothing of us but we are talking about digging for things and finding things in out of the way places no? Things like titanium, aluminum, stainless steel, plastic would survive for millions of years, and lots of other things under unusual conditions would survive. There is reason to believe that things like newspaper could survive in places like dry land fills for many hundreds if not thousands of years. Yes most things under most circumstances would disappear but enough of the billions of tons of stuff we throw away would survive for many millions of years just like dinosaur bones survive many millions of years. If we found a stainless steel tool in with dinosaur bones it would be pretty good evidence of intelligence at that time. Even things like flint and obsidian tools would survive from that time.

[modest]

Originally Posted by freeztar

The next book on my book list is "The World Without Us", which deals with this topic. Have a look at the website if you are interested.

The World Without Us - Alan Weisman

I saw him promoting that on the Daily Show - looked really interesting.

Originally Posted by jason200669

Fair enough, although i dont agree completly with your line of thinking i understand it.
It may take millions of years to completly remove all trace of us but how long to remove all but the gound up plastics?

I think a lot of human creation is more durable than fossilized bone. A bronze sculpture of a human for example would outlast the remains of its builder. We know that bones and fossilized bone lasts longer than humanity has existed - so it is a logical conclusion that human industrialism has never reached our level on this planet before... or we would see signs of it buried right next to our fossilized ancestors. None of them were found wearing wrist watches - as cool as that would be

~modest