All the Truth about 2012

[William Honey]

Many people around the world were very concerned that the world could end at the
turn of the century, but nothing happened. We heard that computers would fail and
shut down. If the world is not blown up by nuclear explosion before the year 2012
then I think that it will just come and go like the turn of the century did.

This has always worked for me.....Live every day as if it were your last and plan for tomorrow. Some of us may not even make it to 2012 ??

[freeztar]

Originally Posted by William Honey

My two cents worth is I don't believe that the year 2012 has to do with numbers at all.

2012 is the year that the Myans stopped making predictions. I think that this is all
connected to Astrology and has nothing to do with any numbers. By some astrological
way the Myans came to the year 12-21-2012. I think it has something to do with the
cosmos and how it is aligned at that partictular time and it just happened to fall on that
day. Many people believe in the Myans predictons and for them to stop all predictions
on the date 12-21-2012 is why people are concerned that it is coming and is close.

You are partially correct.

The Mayan calendar resets on the day that corresponds to the Gregorian calendar date of Dec. 21, 2012. The ancient Maya, according to current literature, were very astrological and believed that numbers held significance to heavenly events. So for them, 2012 is not the "end of the world", but rather, a rebirth (calendar reset=cultural/spiritual rebirth).

But as you say, the day will come and go and everyone will go about their lives as if nothing happened.

[BLUE ELECTRIC MONKEY]

Originally Posted by Symbology

To my observation, every generation has been obsessed that they are in the end times based on the year numbers, dreams, analysis, and other forms of divination. That their generation is more significant than all the rest because of it. That they had it tougher and had to walk to school in the snow... up hill... both ways.

I generally agree with your observation
But the case here also has some characteristics of its own:
Emphasis on a specific date, with so many theories about it.
Much more time-dates-obsession than ever.
Much of the obsession is about time in general, not only about it ending.
And I also give you an explanation of what will change, and why this kind of obsession is now, and why the specific chosen date of change, was chosen.

[Buffy]

Yes, "obsession" is a fine and clearly well-chosen word in this case...

Don't bend; don't water it down; don't try to make it logical; don't edit your own soul according to the fashion. Rather, follow your most intense obsessions mercilessly,
Buffy

[Tormod]

Considering that 21-12-2012 is 7-2-1434 in the Islamic calendar, does that imply that only those using the Gregorian calendar will be affected?

http://www.oriold.uzh.ch/static/hegira.html

[William Honey]

Originally Posted by freeztar

You are partially correct.

The Mayan calendar resets on the day that corresponds to the Gregorian calendar date of Dec. 21, 2012. The ancient Maya, according to current literature, were very astrological and believed that numbers held significance to heavenly events. So for them, 2012 is not the "end of the world", but rather, a rebirth (calendar reset=cultural/spiritual rebirth).

But as you say, the day will come and go and everyone will go about their lives as if nothing happened.

Hello Freeztar, I have read things about the sun disk and that the sun is
becoming exhausted and could go completely out. Could this be connected
to the Myans stopping predictions at the year 2012? I have also read that
a wonderful event will happen in that time frame. Is it possible that a new
sun will appear and take the place of our current sun as it goes out ? I saw
on a special science documentary that at one time their were two suns. I don't know if this was real or just a thought somebody had ?

[BLUE ELECTRIC MONKEY]

Originally Posted by Tormod

Considering that 21-12-2012 is 7-2-1434 in the Islamic calendar, does that imply that only those using the Gregorian calendar will be affected?

Islamic Calendar

No, but it imply that those using the Georgian calender are more to be obsessed with that date, than those using other calenders.
If you look closely, you'll probably see that most 2012 obsession comes from countries using the Gregorian Calender, not from countries using the Muslim calender.
You can, for sure, find other reasons for that, but still.

[Tormod]

There is a 9/11 every year as long as the calendar in use has at least nine months with at least 11 days (or vice versa). In Europe, 9/11 is in November since our date format is dd/mm.

And there is no 911 emergency number anywhere in Europe afaik... In Norway we have three numbers: 110, 112 and 113. I never remember which one goes where.

[BLUE ELECTRIC MONKEY]

Originally Posted by Tormod

There is a 9/11 every year as long as the calendar in use has at least nine months with at least 11 days (or vice versa). In Europe, 9/11 is in November since our date format is dd/mm.

And there is no 911 emergency number anywhere in Europe afaik... In Norway we have three numbers: 110, 112 and 113. I never remember which one goes where.

Yes, 9/11 every year of course.
At least two of them actually
I the Hebrew calender one is the official destruction date of the year.
You are supposed to feel bad and mourn a bout collective losses, together with everybody else, one day in a year. Maybe this is a nice way of handling those combos ? or just a fear-affect ? or a coincidence ?
Remember the European 9.11 ? 9.11.1938 ?
About Emergenct Phone number all over the world.
Check out the wikipedia page about it if you want.
They follow the following patterns:
1.
Different number for a different emergency, usually Police, Medical and Fire, in mostly connecting to the following patterns:
a.
999 (are numbers around it)
100,101,102
15,16,17,18
and other list of numbers with some easy connection between them.
2.
One number for all emergencies, in most countries and in most cases:
911

Why choose 911 ?
Not so easy to remember as 100 or 999 or most other patters.
What kind of pattern causes so much 911 numbers ?
Something that the mind can easily remember as in the other emergency numbers, or some deep unconscious view of 9/11 as a symbol for a bad thing happening ?

Also:
most digits on that global list of emergency numbers is 1 or 9, and most repetitions are 11 and 99 (many 999's), with much much less 22,55,66,77.
check it out:
Emergency telephone number - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[freeztar]

Originally Posted by William Honey

Hello Freeztar, I have read things about the sun disk and that the sun is
becoming exhausted and could go completely out.

It not only can "go out", it will!

Could this be connected to the Myans stopping predictions at the year 2012?

No. The sun will not "go out" for about 5 billion years.

Is it possible that a new sun will appear and take the place of our current sun as it goes out ?

The sun is theorized to grow into a red giant star. After that phase, it is likely to go nova and eject lots of gases into the surrounding space. Whether these gases will eventually condense and create a new star, that's anybody's guess.

I saw on a special science documentary that at one time their were two suns. I don't know if this was real or just a thought somebody had ?

No, there were never two suns in the solar system. At least not that anyone is aware of in the last 5 billion or so years.