1,000,000 Years: Political and Religious Unification of the Planet

[RonPrice]

ONE MILLION YEARS
POLITICAL AND RELIGIOUS UNIFICATION
DOMINANT PRINCIPLE OF OUR CYCLE

Last night I watched “As It Happened: 1929-The Wall Street Crash.”1 I could not help but reflect on the letters of Shoghi Effendi published in The World Order of Bahá'u'lláh in 1938. These letters had a different aim and a far larger scope than his first letters to the North American Baha’is from 1922 to 1929. These letters, these communications, from 1929 to 1936 unfolded for the Baha’is a much clearer vision than they had previously possessed of the relation between the Bahá'í community and the entire process of social evolution under the dispensation of Bahá'u'lláh. This body of letters were first written eight months before just the Wall Street crash and they continued during the depression. they were finally published in 1938 as war approach and the depression was finally ending. The period was one of the nadir’s of civilization.

The distinction between the Bahá'í community and the sects and congregations of former religions were made apparent in these letters. These world order letters established in one volume, among other things, the Baha'i Administrative Order as the nucleus and pattern of the world civilization that was then emerging. In the introduction, Horace Holley, the then secretary of the American Baha'i community wrote: "In light of the existing international chaos, these letters reveal the most significant Truth of this era, namely that the old conception of religion, which separated spirituality from the fundamental functions of civilization, compelling men to abide by conflicting principles of faith, of politics and of economics, has been forever destroyed."2 -Ron Price with appreciation to 1SBS TV, 3 July 2009, 8:30-9:30 p.m. and 2Wikipedia, 4 July 2009.

The dominant principle of this cycle
is the political and religious unity of
the human species--since the great...
dispersal, radiation, homo erectus...
hominid....Out-of-Africa 2 million
years ago...establishment of sapien
human lineage, genus homo, stone
tools, a rudimentary technology....
homo heidelbergensis, 500,000 ya
& homo neanderthalenis-physical
anthropology’s branch and cultural
and social anthropology telling us
of clans, tribes, chiefdoms, then—
city-states, nations and now global
......yes....going global since perhaps
early explorers, say, a 1000 years of
travel on the waters of the earth now
.......
overnight it’s one world on our way
for another 500,000 years of political
and religious unification—that’s the
trip we are now on day by day in the
midst of a tempest, fiery and furious.

Ron Price
4 July 2009

[lemit]

Sorry to pick out a single phrase from your post, but I'm intrigued by the term "former religions." I suppose you mean religions that are now extinct. If not, you might cause some excitement around here and probably should get that out of the way. I probably won't be the last one asking about that, although I might be one of the more friendly ones.

--lemit

[Moontanman]

If we are still pursuing religion 100 years from now much less 500,000 I think the human race is doomed to live and die out on this planet leaving no legacy what so ever other than it would been better if we never existed at all.

[Thunderbird]

Originally Posted by Moontanman

If we are still pursuing religion 100 years from now much less 500,000 I think the human race is doomed to live and die out on this planet leaving no legacy what so ever other than it would been better if we never existed at all.

Drama Queen

[Pyrotex]

My Imaginary Invisible Friend With Magic Powers is gonna beat the crap out of your Imaginary Invisible Friend With Magic Powers!

So, there!

[pamela]

Originally Posted by ron

overnight it’s one world on our way
for another 500,000 years of political
and religious unification—that’s the
trip we are now on day by day in the
midst of a tempest, fiery and furious

this is probably one of the most disturbing concepts that i have come across.

[InfiniteNow]

The OP also seems to fail in terms of time scale. Humans have not existed for a half million years, only if you use a VERY liberal definition of human. Humans have only been around for 200,000 years. All humans... less than 1/5th the proposed time scale.

Human - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[RonPrice]

Thanks for all those responses, folks. I could write a great deal about them, but let me make one brief comment. Darwin, in his Origin of the Species in 1859 and many other scientists now argue that man was there--in potential--right at the start of the first DNA which now is found in Greenland and in the Pilbara in Australia at approximately 3.8 billion ya. Of course homo sapiens sapiens has a timeline going back to 35,000 B.P.(circa)....the whole field of study is an interesting one. I will return to this thread, all being well, later when time permits.-Ron

PS units of social organization: clan, tribe, chiefdom, city-state, nation and--now--in the years ahead: federation, inter-galactic federation---who knows what lies ahead in the future of humanity? We can but speculate

[Pyrotex]

Originally Posted by RonPrice

...Darwin, in his Origin of the Species in 1859 and many other scientists now argue that man was there--in potential--right at the start of the first DNA which now is found in Greenland and in the Pilbara in Australia at approximately 3.8 billion ya. ...

This is pure fabricated nonsense.

The existence of DNA, indeed the very process of genetic heritance, was unknown to Darwin and to all other scientists in 1859. In fact, the initial clues as to genetic heritance weren't discovered until half a century later.

Two. We have fossils from Greenland and Australia that are 3 BYr old or more, but we do NOT have any DNA that old. The oldest DNA I have heard of is far, far less than 1 million years old. DNA decays very quickly under all but the most extreme conditions of intense cold.

Three. The concept that man was "there, in potential" at some early stage of life on this planet is both true and meaningless.
It's also true and meaningless for all other existing animals.
It's also true and meaningless for an infinite number of non-existent animals that never lived.
It's true and meaningless for any plant or animal you can imagine.
They ALL could be said to have been "there, in potential" to one degree or another.

It's a trivial and meaningless statement.
Because it is trivially true for any and all organisms, whether they ever lived or not.

[RonPrice]

With the input of Pyrotex, this thread has moved to mega-themes which one can not possibly cover in these small boxes at this Science Forum--and without readers being overcome with prolixity. I like the phrase "both true and meaningless." That phrase alone could develop into many a paragraph if explored in its implications.

Yes, of course, you are right, Pyrotex, DNA was not discovered until 1953 and homo sapiens sapiens came on stream, so goes the mainstream argument of anthropology, about 35,000 years ago. I would not argue with these points, but my argument and Darwin's goes far beyond these points.

As far as the first DNA is concerned it can be said to be found in association with two cellular processes which are considered to be the major driving forces leading to the explosive evolution and diversity of living organisms throughout the history of the Earth. Two of these processes can be found in two of the following: DNA replication, anaerobic respiration, aerobic respiration, mitosis and photosynthesis.

I leave these complex subjects for now, but thank you for your interest, Pyrotex, and your imaginative and concerned response. -Ron in Australia