Extraterrestial?

[Buffy]

Originally Posted by Robust

Do you truly believe we are the most advanced people to have ever inhabited this planet? The archeological records show otherwise.

They do? What records? Oh wait, I asked that before...What celestial navigation?

"Course 197 Mark 3, Mr. Chekov,"
Buffy

[maddog]

Originally Posted by Robust

Man does not frivously engrave in stone. Archeological digs dating some 5,000 BC indicate a highly advanced people recording for posterity such information as might be seen relevant to extraterrestial navigation. Might it be possible that they did so foreseeing some cataclysmic event with the potential to wipe-out all existing lifeform on the planet?

Might we already exist as some one or another extraterrestial population?

I think Buffy asked this already... What specific engravings are thinking about ? 5000 BCE ? On which
continent ? We are not talking about the plain of Nazgul in South America are we ? Not some of that
bunch of Van Daniken crap is it ??? Y'know the plain of Nazgul has recently been thought to be about
500 BCE or so. Is this what you were thinking. ETs are not the source of this one. Let me see ... what
was around 5000 BCE. That would be before the Egyptian, Indian, Chinese, civilization. The erliest
know dates of the Summerians was about 4600 BCE. Olmecs date some period before 1500 BCE with
no ealiest date known. I know of no such engravings on stone implying ETs... Maybe you could
clarify...

maddog

[Robust]

maddog, the engravings I refer to date to 5,000 BC - Babylonian. Not just a research but the expendig of some 40 years giving application to the findings. The posted Base 10 anomaly giving pretty conclusive evidence of an intelligence far surpassing present day standards.

[Buffy]

So.... kin we see 'em? Do you have to like, belong to some club to get access to 'em?

Enquiringly minded,
Buffy

[C1ay]

Originally Posted by Robust

maddog, the engravings I refer to date to 5,000 BC - Babylonian. Not just a research but the expendig of some 40 years giving application to the findings. The posted Base 10 anomaly giving pretty conclusive evidence of an intelligence far surpassing present day standards.

Why don't you try posting some references to support this absurd claim instead of just posting more unsubstantiated claims. Post after post you fail to provide a link to anything to support your claims.

[bumab]

Originally Posted by Robust

Man does not frivously engrave in stone.

Heck, when I was a kid I pounded stuff into stone all the time- pretty deep too, if the right stone and the right tool came together. It's like natural grafitti, and you can do it in your backyard...

Now that we're all wiser, we should plan out how best to screw up a future civilization's archaologists by engraving the most cryptic, yet vaugly identifiable, messages into stones and setting them in fields around the world... It's like the prank that keeps on giving.

[Robust]

Originally Posted by C1ay

Why don't you try posting some references to support this absurd claim instead of just posting more unsubstantiated claims. Post after post you fail to provide a link to anything to support your claims.

Probably the best evidence posted here is the Base 10 Anomaly thread. You quite apparently have a problem with me, Clay. If you can disprove any of my postings - or advance upon them - that''s what I'm here for....your caterwallings are nothing but disruptive.

[Buffy]

Okay, I re-read the "base 10 anomaly" thread (for those of you who couldn't find it, its actually the "Circle Squared" thread). Unfortunately, there's nothing in that thread at all that refers to astronomical navigation or anything in 5000 BCE (the Babylonian civilization dates only back to about 1800 BCE, and Pythagoras lived in the sixth century BCE). The "anomaly" does not appear to be odd at all to mathematicians, although I guess if you've only got a limited precision on your calculator the calculations might give you puzzing results.

Is this what you're refering to? Could you explain why it has something to do with Extraterrestrials?

Cheers,
Buffy

[C1ay]

Originally Posted by Robust

You quite apparently have a problem with me, Clay. If you can disprove any of my postings - or advance upon them - that''s what I'm here for....your caterwallings are nothing but disruptive.

Yes I do. It is not up to anyone here to disprove any of your absurd claims, it is up to you to prove them. Read the rules for these forums, "If you make strange claims, please provide proof or at least backup of some kind. If you fail to do so, or the backup you provide is not deemed adequate, the moderators may move your post to the Strange Claims forum." You've not provided any proof of anything. If you don't like the rules here then leave.

[Matey]

I have studied this subject for over 3 years now. Never seen any thing myself but listening to Betty and Barney Hill's story (1961) and their hypnosis sessions (64) has Convinced me that this is 100% true.
the evidence is overwhelming...Also the case of Travis Walton which at first I thought was a hoax turned out to be one of the most credible cases ever, as well.
the case of Billy Meier on the other hand which at 1st seemed convincing, turned out to be a hoax.
so it is tricky to get involved since you have the biggest cheat and liars -the government- behind the real truth so it is very hard to get to/study this subject.

I recommend reading the book "Interrupted Journey" or listening to audio-book version of it (it has the hypnosis tapes in there as well), which is about Hill's abduction case.
I can point out some of the facts in both cases right here which I think makes their respective cases impossible to debunk;
1-Hill case;
A- The personalities, the fact that their story actually leaked out (and they even hired a lawyer to stop it), etc.
B-The fact that both Barney and Betty remembered things which seemed really strange back in the old day but later were discovered or invented, Like the Zeta Riticuli star system (a binary sys which can only been seen in southern hemisphere and Hills were in between New Hampshire and Canada) and new method for pregnancy test..Many other facts that could not even be guessed back then.
C- Physical evidence like pink stuff on her dress, the shiny circles on the trunk of their car, early death of the dog exposed to high amount of electromagnetic (I guess) field. etc.

2-Walton's case:
A- the fact that there were 5 witnesses to the abduction
B- The 5 persons were charged with attempted Murder (or possible murder or Travis) by the district attorney, were polygraphed and later arrested I think) in murder charges.
That right there is enough for anyone to confess to a hoax. they did not really know what had taken place, all they saw the beam of light hit Travis and 1st threw him back but then it sucked him up in the ship.
What I think happened was that according to Betty Hill's case these Aliens are very civilized and while they are so far ahead of us that we can not even imagine their level of technology, they do not want to be seen by us or be captured or even be known to us. So they never want to leave any evidence behind.(like a dead person) Therefore they do and the can cover their tracks very well , they even told the Hills to stand away from the ship while it is taking off!~
Travis went ahead while this ship was taking off. the occupants noticed him they came back picked him up and saved his life then dumped him some place near where he was taken (to us it was 20-30 miles but to the Aliens who come from 40 light years it was very near)!

I have to add that I do NOT believe in such thing as "Contactee" That is a load of BS! abductees yes and plenty of them but no way I do not buy this contactee crap and all those who say they are are liars and hoaxers. want to get rich and famous quickly!