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Old 08-22-2005   #1 (permalink)
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Moon Hoax. what do you think?

There are many websites claiming that man landing on moon as an hoax. Man never entered into the moon. Probably u know the story. They give "mistakes" on NASA pics of man landing on moon, that proof (they say) that man never went on moon. Proofs may include things like:
- Photo cameras couldnt support such temperatures on moon (somewhere between -180 and 120 celsius degree) and so its impossible to take pictures on the moon (in that time...60s and 70s).

- The lunar module should have done more impact in the surface around when landing. If you see some pic, you not see any cratere caused by the landing. The landing couldnt be that smooth, they say.

-There is no wind but some USA flags are "waving" like if there was wind.

etc, there are much more "proofs", these are just some to show you.

So, what do u think about these "proofs" and hoax theory? Anyway, even if man landed on moon, some of the arguments are interesting.
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Re: Moon Hoax. what do you think?

The arguments are all weak and quite wrong. All of the arguments have been thoroughly debunked many times. I do hope you are not being deceived by any of them. To just deal briefly with those you have raised here:
Photo cameras couldnt support such temperatures on moon (somewhere between -180 and 120 celsius degree)
Notice that you have quoted a range of temperatures, that cover those experienced at the end of the long lunar night, or at the height of the long lunar day. The higher temperatures are also those experienced by rock or regolith, on the surface, exposed to sunlight for days at a time. The landings were made - if I recall correctly, away from the peak temperature times, and the cameras were not exposed for long enough to acquire the ambient rock temperature.
The lunar module should have done more impact in the surface around when landing. If you see some pic, you not see any cratere caused by the landing. The landing couldnt be that smooth, they say.
Why should it make a large crater? It was a soft landing. The impact was gentle. It had to be to avoid damaging the craft or the astronauts inside. If you are expecting a large crater because of the rocket exhaust remember that the surface is reasonably solid, apart from a thin covering of dust. Additionally, the exhaust energy is very low. Remember it is only fighting 1/6 of the Earth's gravity.
-There is no wind but some USA flags are "waving" like if there was wind.
The flag is supported on a wire extension. Their is a natural elasticity in the whole assembly (flag, pole, extension) that causes it to vibrate for a time after it is 'planted'.

For me, however, there is a single factor that removes any and all doubt. Before the moonlanding many geologists were speculating on the character of the rocks that would be found. There were some pretty wild ideas being thrown around. Yet none of them matched the what was actually discovered. The detailed geochemistry of the rocks was wholly unexpected and led to a major rethink in how the moon had originated. Those rocks have been examined by scores of laboratories around the world in dozens of countries. The possibility of a hoax on that scale is essentially zero.
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Re: Moon Hoax. what do you think?

Here are a couple of good web pages debunking these arguments:

http://www.redzero.demon.co.uk/moonhoax/ -- Good overview of the major arguments and why they're wrong.

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html -- A rebuttal to the pop-sci pseudo-documentary on Fox TV from about 4 years ago but an interesting site on related "Bad Astronomy" too.

http://pirlwww.lpl.arizona.edu/~jsco...faked/FOX.html -- A more comprehensive and readable Fox show rebuttal.

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Re: Moon Hoax. what do you think?

thanks. i will give a look to that link.
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Re: Moon Hoax. what do you think?

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...even if man landed on moon...
Yeah. They even landed 6 times, with two astronauts on each landing, and one astronaut in the command module in orbit around the Moon.

It's not only true, it is astonishing. This summer I read one incredible book about the 9 surviving astronauts who have walked on the Moon (yeah, they are still around). It's called "Moonwalkers - in search for the men who fell to Earth" by Andrew Smith.

Get it, it's a great read.


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The one good thing about conspiracy theories is the money made off the sale of the associated literature. Go figure?????????????


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I guess...if making money on deceiving people is a good thing.


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I guess...if making money on deceiving people is a good thing.
Well the money might be good but the lies certainly aren't. The sad thing is, many of these people really believe the trash they are publishing. Maybe we just have to chalk it up to a case of mass paranoia.


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Re: Moon Hoax. what do you think?

To anwser a question what do I think about the moon hoax theory I would say

that the people who believes in a guy with degree in arts talking about astronomical phenomenons rather than actuall scientists are very naive. By saying naive I meant - dumb. I didn't want to sound offensivelly.
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