Expanding Earth?

[Turtle]

___I listened to this fella Neal Adams(creator of Batman!) discuss on the radio the idea that Earth (actually all planets/moons/stars) expand over time. Very interesting point of view, albeit a 'strange claim' by mainstream views. We have discussed this some in regard to Earth having a fusion core, but Neal doesn't pose that hypothesis.
___Anyway, here's the meta-link & my question "how would you prove/disprove experimentally this proposed expansion"?
http://www.nealadams.com/nmu.html

[Jay-qu]

I was sure this was posted here some time ago...maybe it was another site i watched a video that showed how the continents peiced back together as the earth shrinks - it is a very thought provoking view - right or wrong!

[GAHD]

yeah, it was here. Let's look for it.

First to find it gets Rep!

[Jay-qu]

Found it!

Maybe you'll be interested

[GAHD]

Ahh, good ole thread. He really did get angry when people didn't take his words as fact.

His profile's still there, you can probably email him if you're interested in his stuff.

You could even ask him back, might be fun to see a second bout now that he's had more time to collect his thoughts.

[Turtle]

Originally Posted by Jay-qu

Found it!

Maybe you'll be interested

___Nice job JayQ! Now some of my generalist observations.
___As to any angry tone in the aforementioned thread, I see it began with Tmad.
___Inviting the fella back!? To what end? Set him up for some more pummeling? I think not.
___The 'subduction' question aside for a moment, there is a matter of fact he has exposited that everyone seems to miss, or at least not address. To whit the fit of continents. What he has shown is that the continents don't just fit up South America-to-Africa etc. as in the texts, but they fit up on the Pacific sides as well. This appears to contradict the Pangea idea with a single continent on one side of Earth & the rest ocean. How else to explain fits all-round unless Earth were smaller?
___From listening to his radio talk I understood him to say he can't find anyone who has compared the rocks on either side of the Pacific "joins" as has been done between S. America/Africa.
___I think it's an interesting idea that deserves better than angry diatribes & insults. Science for everyone, remember? I did after all put it in the Strange Claims; hell, I'm going looking for Bigfoot tomorrow for crying out loud.

[arkain101]

The universe Model in F-Theory Dynamics.

F=Father Fabric (alike space-time)

String theory is now looking at 12 dimensions to complete its explanations. Un desterbed father fabric being 12 dimensions relaxed, when it does not move, as einstien said, nothing happens.



12 dimensionional father fabric (F-theory) interact as one. This results in the universe we see. Expanding from feeding on F. Has many versions of dimensions regarding on how you manipulate the fudamentals. 12 unites into 1 = U (universal reality) determined to Mass-Energy scale.

Once the fabric is given momentum (on a large scale) it then has 'motion' at which things can happen. When the fabric has disturbances in motion forces arise. Large scale, gravity, light, and magnatism. All expanding, and feeding on specific sections of F-fabric. All forces of nature, natural response when motion is set in the F-fabric. It is forced to expand and feed itself as long as disturbance momentum continues.
Not unlike the bernoulli principle. Frictionless disturbances in F-fabric on multiple scales manifest forces on different energy levels, ever lasting.

[Eclogite]

Prior to the acceptance of plate tectonics an Expanding Earth and a Shrinking Earth had both been proposed to explain global tectonic features.

One general observation: the highly dismissive tone used by Adams of conventional wisdom is a technique used by pseudoscientists, but should have no place in a serious presentation of hypotheses. I think it detracts from the attention that his proposal may merit.

Originally Posted by Turtle

"how would you prove/disprove experimentally this proposed expansion"?

This is not quite a disproof, but I am puzzled as to how he accounts for the observed motions of the plates. He roundly decries as nonsense the notion that tectonic plates exist and can move around the planet, yet we have carried out measurements of this movement. It matches the theory. This single suite of observations appears to invalidate his hypothesis.

[Turtle]

Originally Posted by arkain101

12 dimensionional father fabric (F-theory) interact as one. This results in the universe we see. Expanding from feeding on F. Has many versions of dimensions regarding on how you manipulate the fudamentals. 12 unites into 1 = U (universal reality) determined to Mass-Energy scale....

Very interesting perspective; moreover, similar to Buckminster Fuller's geometric views. I have to ask Arkain, how can I interest you in a nice Synergetics today? More directly, do you not know about Fuller's work?

Originally Posted by Eclogite

Prior to the acceptance of plate tectonics an Expanding Earth and a Shrinking Earth had both been proposed to explain global tectonic features.

Agreed; the guy says as much.

Originally Posted by Eclogite

One general observation: the highly dismissive tone used by Adams of conventional wisdom is a technique used by pseudoscientists, but should have no place in a serious presentation of hypotheses. I think it detracts from the attention that his proposal may merit.

My agreement again; let us not get distracted.

Originally Posted by Eclogite

This is not quite a disproof, but I am puzzled as to how he accounts for the observed motions of the plates. He roundly decries as nonsense the notion that tectonic plates exist and can move around the planet, yet we have carried out measurements of this movement. It matches the theory. This single suite of observations appears to invalidate his hypothesis.

I don't think he decries plates or their motion, rather the circumstance of the motion. His claim is the plates move apart as new matter is created inside Earth & the new material is filling in the cracks as the entire Earth (all planets & moons too) grows. Simply that Earth is bigger now than it once was.
In that vein, I suggest the growth may have puncuated patterning, i.e. not a steady growth. Grows rapidly a while, grows slowly a while, doesn't ghrow at all awhile, etc..
Again, we must account for not just continental plate margin matches across the Atlantic & Indian Oceans, but simlilar matches across the Pacific that he has demonstrated with his mapping.

[arkain101]

Very interesting perspective; moreover, similar to Buckminster Fuller's geometric views. I have to ask Arkain, how can I interest you in a nice Synergetics today? More directly, do you not know about Fuller's work?

I honestly had to google the word Synergetics, and didnt find anything in time to explain it well enough for me to get an idea of what exactly it is.
Nope, I have not heard of Fuller or his work.

F-theory is something which unites everything in my view for the first time. Why? because everything imaginable is a specific type of disturbance in the multi-dimensional fabric. The constants we find in nature, are what I propose as evidence of the details of this infinite Source Fabric. That which is all. As soon as 'energy' is set off in this Ff, depending on its quanity and energy and what not determines if its going to function as matter or energy.

To summerize, All the the little details of the physical universe, are specificly detailed motions in the exact same Father Fabric source.