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Posted 08-16-2007
A pair of German physicists claim to have broken the speed of light - an achievement that would undermine our entire understanding of space and time....

However, Dr Gunter Nimtz and Dr Alfons Stahlhofen, of the University of Koblenz, say they may have breached a key tenet of that...
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By Jay-qu on 08-19-2007
Re: I change my mind – N & S really have demonstrated FTL communication

Your a real scientist craig, not holding any sentiments when it comes to some of the biggest and most accurately predicting theories we have! But one of the ideals of science is repeatability, and i am going to wait until this experiment is verified before I can believe FTL is possible in some cases!
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By Qfwfq on 09-04-2007
Re: We have broken speed of light

I find this whole thing full of misconceptions and I would like to see an appropriate analysis, which I'm not expecting to do myself presently and would mean studying the evanescent wave with a variable incoming amplitude. Such a computation would be trickier than the steady-state one used for describing the Esaki effect and calculating just the emergent amplitude. I can't remember exactly textbooks say about it, from when I was on my course years back, but suspect Eisberg-Resnick warns against jumping to hasty conclusions of this kind.

In any case, it is long known that the evanescent wave for constant amplitude has constant phase over distance, I doubt there having been no previous Clever Dicks thinking of the same idea.
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By LaurieAG on 09-04-2007
Re: We have broken speed of light

This news is over 3 years old. The date is April 2004.

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The microwave 'photons' have a 33mm wavelength and I bet they didn't use the exact same angular set-ups for all their tests at all the different distances. I even suspect that they had different angular set-ups for each microwave 'photon' equivalent, at each distance.
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By Erasmus00 on 09-04-2007
Re: I change my mind – N & S really have demonstrated FTL communication

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When confronted with such a paradox, one should be mindful that, despite being a modern theory, Relativity is a classical mechanical, not a quantum physical, theory, so, in an absolute, objective-reality-based sense, is wrong when applied to experiments of this kind.
While special relativity is classical, I think its also important to remember that you can make a relativistic quantum mechanics (quantum field theory) and it has been enormously successful. As such, I don't see how they can possibly be passing ftl signals.
-Will
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By Buffy on 09-04-2007
Re: We have broken speed of light

Not clear on how they're proving that its the same photon in both prisms: They could of course just be two separate but entangled photons, right?

Even if this was the case, it would still be "faster than light transmission of information" which would violate SR too...

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By Qfwfq on 09-05-2007
Re: We have broken speed of light

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right?
No, it's not the same thing as entanglement and I doubt were could use it to transmit info faster than c, which we can't do with entanglement either.
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